Snow Glows ??

[Valley Reptiles]

How are these made? Is it a snow bred to a sunglow? and will some of the babies be Snow Glow or will they all be het?

 

[preacherman]

Hey Eric,

SnowGlows are a name we gave to a project that we've been working on. They are basically Mack Snow Sunglows. We're just working on the Tremper version, but others are working on the Bell version. If you breed a snow to a sunglow you will get roughly half snows that are all het for Tremper Albino. Some may be somewhat hypo. You can either cross some of those babies bakc together, or, what I would do, cross your best male from that project into nice sunglows.

 

[preacherman]

Here's a pic of one of our holdbacks. He's only about 25 grams now, so his pattern will continue to fill in.

 

[Valley Reptiles]

Thanks. I saw the geckos from your website and really liked them:beam: That is definately a project that I want to start on.

 

[bittner_344]

so a snowglow is just a mack snow albino, that has more orange color to it? h
hmm interesting

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

so a snowglow is just a mack snow albino, that has more orange color to it? h
hmm interesting

Brett, this in my opinion is like saying a Tangerine Tornado is a normal with a little more orange. I believe that there is something more too it that sets it apart. Therefore deserving of a specific morph name.

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

Brett, this in my opinion is like saying a Tangerine Tornado is a normal with a little more orange. I believe that there is something more too it that sets it apart. Therefore deserving of a specific morph name.

Exactly Jeremy, I feel the same way. It is more than just a Mack with a little more color, I just received an awesome female from Jason last week and I love it. They are definately worth a morph name in my opinion.

 

[bittner_344]

Oh ok, thanks guys for clearing that up. lets see some more pics!

 

[BluGnat]

That holdback is beautiful. Good luck with the new morph - it looks gorgeous!

 

[snared99]

bell snow glows

Im working on the same project as jason, but with the bell line. HEre is some shots of the small and larger leos in that project. enjoy!

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

Hey Pat, I love that third one, great markings!!

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

More names for existing morphs. Yay!


I can see it now. "What is the difference between a Mack Hypo Snow Albino w/ some color(something that was bound to happen), a Tremper albino cremesicle, and a snow glow, as compared to a phantom?? Oh, and are the Bell Hypo Snow Albinos, the same thing only in Bell form??" LOL

 

[eyelids]

"What is the difference between a Mack Hypo Snow Albino w/ some color(something that was bound to happen), a Tremper albino cremesicle, and a snow glow, as compared to a phantom?? Oh, and are the Bell Hypo Snow Albinos, the same thing only in Bell form??"

LMAO!

 

[lytlesnake]

More names for existing morphs. Yay!


I can see it now. "What is the difference between a Mack Hypo Snow Albino w/ some color(something that was bound to happen), a Tremper albino cremesicle, and a snow glow, as compared to a phantom?? Oh, and are the Bell Hypo Snow Albinos, the same thing only in Bell form??" LOL

Snow Glow is a lot easier to say than "Mack Hypo Snow Albino w/ some color" for one thing. The Snow Glows and Phantoms do not look the same to me. Similar genes may exist in these morphs, but I think they were achieved by different breeding combos. From what I read on the Urban Gecko site, Phantoms started out as essentially cremesicles (mack hypos) which were then crossed w/ sunglows. The Snow Glows came from mack trempers which were crossed with sunglows. So while they may have basically the same genetic components, they were created differently, which may explain why they don't look the same.

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

Snow Glow is a lot easier to say than "Mack Hypo Snow Albino w/ some color" for one thing. The Snow Glows and Phantoms do not look the same to me. Similar genes may exist in these morphs, but I think they were achieved by different breeding combos. From what I read on the Urban Gecko site, Phantoms started out as essentially cremesicles (mack hypos) which were then crossed w/ sunglows. The Snow Glows came from mack trempers which were crossed with sunglows. So while they may have basically the same genetic components, they were created differently, which may explain why they don't look the same.

Im with you on this one, the Snow Glows have a different look than the Phantoms, Cremesicles, etc. I understand the "another new name for an existing morph" thing when it comes to the Hybinos and the different names which have been put on them. They look the same just different extremes of Tang. To me if you have a different look and that look is steady through all your hatchlings such as is the case with the SnowGlows, a new morph name is acceptable and maybe even necessary, so that what you are doing doesn't get thrown in the same category with the Cremesicles, Phantoms, etc. Just my opinion.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

I`ll give it to TUG, the phantoms are a little different. Otherwise I am just being difficult.

I know the difference, but they are all essentially Hypo Snow Albinos, is all I am saying.

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

I`ll give it to TUG, the phantoms are a little different. Otherwise I am just being difficult.

I know the difference, but they are all essentially Hypo Snow Albinos, is all I am saying.

I understand that, and I agree the Phantoms are different looking, nice looking. But that nice look is alot different than Jasons look and JMG's look with the Cremesicle, which makes is deserving of a different name as long as you don't claim its a different morph, because yes, as you say they are essentially Hypo Snow Albinos.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

I think that the big upside to having a morph name is the ease in saying or typing it. It is a lot easier to say "Snow Glow" then it is to say Mack snow hypo tangerine albino.

You have to admit Dan you have been one to buck the trend when it comes to this.

The bottom line is some will like it, some won't. In my opinion it is deserving of a morph name.

 

[lytlesnake]

Yeah, I can't wait to see my Snow Glow in person... when this weather cools down for shipping that is. So if I have a Snow Glow male but no female, what's the best way to make more of them? Should I get a nice Mack Tremper female and make hets? I'm also going to cross him with something else to see if I can come up with geckos that are similar (but different) to the Phantoms, but I'd be a fool not to make more Snow Glows, or "Snowbinos".

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

Yeah, I can't wait to see my Snow Glow in person... when this weather cools down for shipping that is. So if I have a Snow Glow male but no female, what's the best way to make more of them? Should I get a nice Mack Tremper female and make hets? I'm also going to cross him with something else to see if I can come up with geckos that are similar (but different) to the Phantoms, but I'd be a fool not to make more Snow Glows, or "Snowbinos".

If I was you I would get a nice Tremper Sunglow (if you don't already have one) and breed your SnowGlow Male to the Sunglow Female, you stand the chance for 50% of your hatchlings being SnowGlows.

P.S. Jason has some nice Sunglows as well.