Tang Enigma babies

[fuzzylogix]

our first enigmas of the year hatched out yesterday. they are from a JMG Tang Enigma male x Creamsickle female

 

[KelliH]

Those are really nice but are you sure they are Enigmas?

 

[OneFootedAce]

I'm not seeing enigma either? Very nice geckos nonetheless.

 

[fuzzylogix]

i wasn't sure about the top one, but there is something going on with the eyes with both. im seeing some signs of the syndrome for sure in the second one. i will try and get some eye shots and maybe video. still hard for me to be sure when they are that small but i'm open to suggestions

 

[im faster]

I really love the look of enigmas.. But ive now had 2 pass from the syndrome and I dont think ill have anymore or breed anymore.

 

[Landen]

Enigma's would have a mostly white tail.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Those are two very nice babies but I don't think either is enigma.

 

[LZRDGRL]

to "I'm faster": Enigmas don't "pass" from the syndrome. They have balance problems, head tilts or wobblies, and circle, but they don't die of it; at least not to my knowledge. There must have been something else going on (or maybe they were a bit premature?).

to fuzzylogic: If you see something strange in the eyes, might it be that they carry Eclipse genes? I have several hatchlings that look exactly like yours, and they are Jungle Eclipses and Stripe Eclipses, or het Eclipses. They have a bit of a snake eye, or just one snake eye. Even that might vanish and become a normal eye when they grow older.

Compare your first hatchling to the one I'll post below (Lolita; my Jungle het Eclipse; the sire was Eclipse and the dam a Mack Snow).

Yours are definitely not looking like Enigmas. Neither of them has the horseshoe pattern on the head or the Engima nose spot; what you see on the first one is just normal head pattern. Mine has a nose like this, too, and is not Enigma. I would say het Eclipse. Also, their color is super strong for Creamsickle offspring. Could you have mixed up the eggs maybe? They clearly have stripe influence. Nonetheless, they are both beautiful, and they shouldn't have "the syndrome." That will probably pass when time goes by. I only ever had one normal hatchling display a balance problem, and it had a shortened tail, so that was why. It wasn't Enigma.

Chrissy

I really love the look of enigmas.. But ive now had 2 pass from the syndrome and I dont think ill have anymore or breed anymore.

 

[im faster]

no but it can impair them to the point they wont eat.

and one died from that turned out the other was egg bound.

 

[fuzzylogix]

im blaming my idiocy on identifying these two on lack of sleep, lol. i should know better about the tail, duh. sorry i was probably just seeing normal stress reactions being that they just hatched out. i was seeing some red tinge to their eyes but after closer inspection tonight, i'm just seeing normal looking eyes. i'm going to bed

 

[Kristi23]

They're both still really nice!