Vet XRAY and not know

[CallDr]

I took Candy to the Vet today because she was not eating and wanted a poop test. The Vet did an XRAY and could not tell me what the 2 spots were???????

Can anyone here see by the XRAY what might be the problem? The only thing she said it was 2 hard "some things" ? Could be hard poop or parts of eggs?????

 

[JordanAng420]

Do you have a view of the whole gecko? Or is that it? It's kinda cut off at the caudal side (towards the head).

Assuming you don't keep your geckos on sand...please say you don't...

Whatever is there, appears to be up in the stomach or chest area. They're pretty dense, almost as dense as bone, but not quite.

How long has this gecko not been eating? Describe the cage setup and feeding schedule? Previous history of any illness?

It almost looks like it's in the chest. Which would be bad. That's why i'd like a whole body view...

 

[MiamiLeos]

I'm really curious to know what substrate the leo is on. They almost look like calcium deposits within the chest or a blockage of something within the stomach..

 

[CallDr]

The right portion is the pelvic area. You are right... stomach chest area. No sand...tile. She has not been eating good in a while... maybe a couple of months.

Her poop as always been small...... compared to my BS. Plus she quit eating crix but would a couple of superworms a week.

Her poop does not look normal either....... meaning it turns a light brown color? Not dark or black looking like my BS.

The Vet said she could feel something hard ( not normal ) but really knew very little about Leopard Gecko's.

 

[JordanAng420]

If the head is to the right, the masses could potentially be in the chest. That is actually pretty odd, considering lungs show up black on xray, since they're filled with air, and the abdomen is whitish looking. If what you are saying is true...the chest is white and the abdomen is black.

Really need a whole body overhead view if possible...

 

[Jordan]

it seems you guys are handling this fine, i dont need to repepat what youve said.

however i will say. first time ive seen a gecko x ray. FASCINATING

 

[CallDr]

If the head is to the right, the masses could potentially be in the chest. That is actually pretty odd, considering lungs show up black on xray, since they're filled with air, and the abdomen is whitish looking. If what you are saying is true...the chest is white and the abdomen is black.

Really need a whole body overhead view if possible...

The "right side" of the X is the Tail / pelvic area and the "left of the X" is the stomach/ lungs.

 

[JordanAng420]

Here's an xray of a leopard gecko, that happens to have a pretty serious impaction. However, you can clearly see that the lungs are filled with black, and the abdomen is filled with whitish material.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Impaction

I'm concerned that the lungs don't appear black on the portion of your xray posted, and i'm concerned that the abdomen doesn't appear normal either.

How do you think it compares?

 

[LZRDGRL]

The head is toward the left. It seems to be in the chest. Would your vet recognize tumors? There can't be substrate in her chest. Light brown fecal matter is definitely not normal. Maybe you should get a fecal stain, too. What if she "just" has parasites, and whatever it is in her chest does not trouble her at all? A fecal stain is much cheaper than an Xray. The vet should have done that first, and then the Xray, if still necessary. But it's an interesting picture!

Chrissy

 

[JordanAng420]

I don't get it. I'd love to see the entire body of this gecko. Do you have that? Or do you just have this particular portion of the xray?

 

[CallDr]

How do you think it compares?

Here is what you are seeing as in the pic you showed the link to.

 

[CallDr]

I don't get it. I'd love to see the entire body of this gecko. Do you have that? Or do you just have this particular portion of the xray?

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She only xrayed the hard spots she felt??? not the whole body and I don't think she used a normal xray machine either?????

But the lumps are in the stomach towards the tail and I don't think it's lungs.

Her report said....... thickening felt in caudal abdomen.
pain.... 1/10 normal

50 grams

 

[JordanAng420]

Well, it appears as if the masses are located within the stomach, and have not passed thru to the intestines...I can see the beginning of what appears to be lungs on the last picture posted, and the masses look like they're in the stomach/diaphragm area. *

I would go ahead and have a veterinarian who is more versed in reptilian medicine evaluate these radiographs.Your current vet gets kudos for doing the diagnostics, but if he or she doesn't know what they're looking at, then it's useless.

Mention the possibility of lactulose to your vet...if it is impacted with some type of material (my gecko who recently passed used to eat her sphagnum moss all the time), a stool softener like lactulose might help move things along....

I wouldn't rule out other serious issues, though. I wish we could do ultrasounds on leopard geckos!

*Which is called the caudal abdomen, and that's why I was confused as to where it was located at first, without the shot of the lungs.

 

[CallDr]

I took a poop sample and she said it would be thursday till I get the results.


Yes....... she did not know what to do. So as you said....... I need an expert!

 

[JordanAng420]

Here is a state by state list of herp vets...maybe you can find someone near you to take a look at those xrays...you might not even need to bring the gecko in, some vets are nice enough to look at xrays through email...

http://herpvetconnection.com/

 

[CallDr]

Here is a state by state list of herp vets...maybe you can find someone near you to take a look at those xrays...you might not even need to bring the gecko in, some vets are nice enough to look at xrays through email...

http://herpvetconnection.com/

I talked to one of the Vets on the list and without seeing the xrays he felt it was eggs. He is supposed to look at them in the email I sent and call me tomorrow.

The poop test cam back negative......

 

[CallDr]

OK...... the vet called back today and said it was solid urine.. and to soak in warm water so it will pass. I did this twice today and no poo or pee yet.

So do I do this everyday till she passes it? Also....... do ya'll suggest I stop or don't feed?

Her tail is still fat...... I posted a video of her shedding not long ago in the general section.

FYI....... she is steady as a rock and no shaking or trembling legs. She seems to have strength and alert when I get her out of the cage.

Also..... I took out the old Zoomed UTH and replaced it with an ultritherm which is the same as my BS. Which is doing great. So as everyone knows temps change.... but the new UTH is a bit cooler..... ie in her "normal" out of the hide basking area it's 90 degrees and maybe 95 ish inside the hot hide. ( 74 ish on cool side )

 

[CallDr]

Well....... for those who had no advise..lol. I did feed her 3 Crickets tonight and she seemed hungry and alert.... shaking tail and gobbled them up. It looks like changing the UTH and hot hide position, soaking and letting her walk around a while the past couple of days was positive. Maybe she will poop soon and pass what ever had her blocked.

FYI..... I dusted the crix pretty good with the R - ICB so she got some good extra stuff that might help also.

I will post if things change for the better or worse.

 

[acpart]

It sounds as if you're doing everything you can do. Good luck with her.

Aliza

 

[Quantumhigh]

How is she doing?