W&Y Enigma

[tiedxupxinxknots]

Well I saw a really cool looking W&Y enigma but im confused, I thought white and yellows where almost the same as enigmas just withouth the enigma syndrome, wouldn't crossing the 2 defeat the purpose of the W&Y?

 

[KelliH]

I would think so.

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

So then you don't think this should be done?

 

[sunshinegeckos]

You are right (from what I have heard about the W & Y) and no I dont think it should be done. It defeats the purpose

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

I agree with you thanks for the feedback now I know what I shouldn't try to cross lol

 

[lillith]

But what if it does correct the syndrome?
I'm going to reserve judgement until I hear otherwise.

Has anyone heard otherwise? Directly from the person who did the breeding?
I asked, but I haven't gotten a response yet.

 

[KelliH]

I'm not sure how you would be able to tell which was an "Enigma W & Y" and which one was an "Enigma"...

 

[lillith]

It looks like a W&Y + enigma to me...it's subtle, but it does look like it has both traits expressing. It's also a Bell het RADAR.

It has the enigma red-head and enigma whitish tail, but very W&Y dorsal/side patterning. There's the symmetry of enigma head pattern wrapped by a U-shape that I see on W&Y...

My jury is out until I hear how it affects the syndrome symptoms.

I almost wonder if they're on next-door loci to each other...

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

Well, im not sure if it would correct it, but that is as interesting theory u got ther Lillith, and I also agree with you KelliH it would be hard to tell them apart..

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Well I had a lot written out but I dont feel like arguing right now. I dont think W&Y should be crossed with enigmas because there is enough confusion with the morph as is so why complicate them more with a gene which will complicate identification. Kudos to everyone working with W&Y and please keep good records so someone can finally provide detailed information on them.

Cheers

 

[Wild West Reptile]

Is it OK to ask where this gecko is listed so I can see it?

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

this is where i saw it and i admit that it looks cool.... http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/index.php?title=File:Matt_whiteyellowenigma2.jpg

 

[sunshinegeckos]

I might be wrong but from what I have heard is that it gives the same color enhancements that enigmas do but has not had the same nuerological effects that the enigmas can have. Its an "alternative" to enigmas. Correct me if my thinking is wrong.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

Ahhhh yes.


Your thinking is correct christina but there is much yet to be proved.

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

well im getting mine soon, ill post it here if it has any syndrome issues but i doubt it, from what i heard you guys are correct.

 

[sunshinegeckos]

I would think it would take a while to see exactly what they can do and I look forward to learning more about them. They are really nice looking.

 

[lillith]

The one I was thinking of I saw on FB.

Yes, it is another mixed morph. True.
Yes, that means everyone better keep awesome records, but shouldn't we anyways?

I'm just curious if these are actually more related traits than anyone thinks, and it may be very fanciful wishful thinking indeed. But it would be cool if the combination somehow helps the expression of enigma syndrome to not be so severe.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I just don't think I should judge before I know.

 

[tiedxupxinxknots]

well, i own a enigma as well, and she doesnt have much syndrome issues, i think the more you cross enigmas the less the syndrome appears but that is just my opinion...

 

[sunshinegeckos]

I don't think they mean that when mixed with an enigma that it deletes the syndrome or makes it less severe. I think what they mean is that when mixed with another morph it has the same advantages as the enigmas do without the disadvantages...so far....time will tell though.

 

[sunshinegeckos]

as far as enigmas go I think they all have it to some degree but they might not "show" it at the moment. But that is a whole other arguement for another thread.