What a Tremper Albino Enigma looks like ?

[ze-bu-lon]

Hello
I know that Enigma comes from M Bell ans taht in that way my question is perhaps stupid ...
But in europe, there are more Tremper Albinos than Bell ones ...
I would like to know if someone breed Tremper Albino Enigma and if this one do or will have red eyes ?
I'm french and i'm looking for , if it exists, enigma tremper albino or het for the hamm show in september or december ...

Bye
Stephane

 

[okapi]

I hope that there are no tremper enigmas yet. because all of them so far are possible het bell albinos. And no one knows what they would look like until they are hatched.

 

[eyelids]

Kelli said one had been produced...

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[ze-bu-lon]

What will arrive breeding red eye enigma ( so bell albino ) or enigma ( possible het bell ) with another tremper albino morph ???
Is it possible to pass thtough the het bell and have later , some XXXX tremper albino het bell for example or tremper and bell albino is not both together possible ( excuse my english )


For example :

first --> Mack Super Snow Tremper Albinos X Enigma
to get Mack Snow Tremper Albinos enigma

I hope you understand what i mean ...

 

[eyelids]

I wouldn't recommend doing Red Eye (Bell) Enigma x Super Snow Tremper because all of the offspring would be het Bell... Things could get pretty messed up down the road and you may not know if the ones you produce are Bells, Trempers or both...

Super Snow Tremper x Enigma = 50% Mack Snows het Tremper and 50% Mack Snow Enigmas het Tremper.

On the other hand, every person I've seen do Enigma x Bell have produced Red Eyed Enigmas... So it's very likely you'll produce Enigmas het Bell from any cross using first generation Enigmas.

If you're looking to do SS Tremper x Enigma you should probably obtained the furthest outcrossed ones possible.

 

[paulnj]

A handful of people went enigma X RAPTOR or tremper, but good luck finding a enigma het tremper not spoken for already

 

[bittner_344]

I am totally confused about this. considering Enigma is bell, and bell enigmas have red eyes, then, wouldent the "tremper enigma" have red eyes to? i dont see how it would look much different? anyone want to help me out on this lol?
brett

 

[miamimike]

Although the Enigma was created by Mark Bell....they are not all Bell-line animals....the red-eye enigmas you see out now ARE Bell.....but just because it is an enigma doesnt necessarily mean it's a Bell-line animal. As stated by others in previous posts, even Mark Bell isn't sure where the enigmas came from exactly. I dont think anyone has hatched a Tremper Enigma yet so it is impossible to tell exactly what they will look like...that's what is so exciting about this morph...there are many crosses yet to explore!

 

[nevinm]

someone...im not sure, im ganna ask the person that told me...but someone breed an enigmal to a tremper, and one or 2 of the babies came out with red eyes...so what does that tell you?

 

[Gazz]

someone...im not sure, im ganna ask the person that told me...but someone breed an enigmal to a tremper, and one or 2 of the babies came out with red eyes...so what does that tell you?

I was wondering about that sort of thing also.The enigma gene,we don't really know anything about it and it is a odd gene,we all know this as the albino is only express though the eyes.MAYBE just maybe all you need is the albino gene with red eyes enigmas but it doesn't matter on the strain of albino ?.Any one hear done red eye enigma X APTOR/RAPTOR yet = ?.Willing to share your results any red eye offspring ? KelliH any cards to share ?.I serpose we need more breeding result first really.But as this gene is still a full mystery to us there's maybe a hint of possibility beings it's the enigma ?.But time and more breeding will prove or disprove it.

 

[KelliH]

KelliH any cards to share ?.I serpose we need more breeding result first really.But as this gene is still a full mystery to us there's maybe a hint of possibility beings it's the enigma ?.But time and more breeding will prove or disprove it.

I have hatched a couple of Tremper Enigmas and will post pics shortly. I hadn't posted them yet because I was not totally sure that the first one was an Enigma. The second one confirms it.

 

[bittner_344]

congrats kelli! i want to see these.

 

[LeosForLess]

lol its a tremper, all the bell and rainwater ppl are gunna hate on it.

im all for it i only have trempers

 

[goReptiles]

i'd like to see...

 

[Gazz]

I have hatched a couple of Tremper Enigmas and will post pics shortly. I hadn't posted them yet because I was not totally sure that the first one was an Enigma. The second one confirms it.

Congrat's :main_thumbsup:.How ?.

bell red eye enigma X tremper = red eye enigmas ? strate off ?.

bell red eye enigma X tremper = enigma het bell & tremper ?.

enigma het bell & tremper X enigma het bell & tremper = both bell red eye enigma & tremper red eye enigmas ?.

ect'ect what way the process ?? willing to share :main_yes: ??.

 

[robin]

Congrat's :main_thumbsup:.How ?.

bell red eye enigma X tremper = red eye enigmas ? strate off ?.

bell red eye enigma X tremper = enigma het bell & tremper ?.

enigma het bell & tremper X enigma het bell & tremper = both bell red eye enigma & tremper red eye enigmas ?.

ect'ect what way the process ?? willing to share :main_yes: ??.

raptor x enigma (apparently the enigma was a het tremper as well)

 

[nevinm]

hahaha. kelli, congrats. now i remeber your the one that did it that i was told about.

 

[robin]

hahaha. kelli, congrats. now i remeber your the one that did it that i was told about.

i don't think she was. there are a couple of others out there as well. one was produced way before she produced hers.

 

[eyelids]

Hmmm... I really want to see the eyes!

 

[ze-bu-lon]

Thank you All for your answers !!!!
But i always have the same problem ... no enigma available in europe !!!!!!!!! even at the hamm show ... Kelli , pllleeeaaassseeeeeeee ....