Black pearl

[thegeckokid]

hey,
has anyone out there heard anything new about what's going on with the black pearl?
The urban gecko has just removed them from there website and are UNABLE TO RESPOND .
Is there anyone out there with a black pearl that may have some insight?
I have been talking to a guy in the uk who is having the same problems as I am having..
Between me and the other guy all we see is death, sickness and unhealthy hatchling that are not even making it out of the egg.

 

[KelliH]

I have not heard anything but I certainly will find out and report back.

 

[thegeckokid]

Thanks for your help.

 

[turbogex]

I was wondering what was going on with this morphs as well?

 

[turbogex]

Kelli did you ever find any out about this project?

 

[justindh1]

http://www.ts-geckos.com/blackpearl.htm

This is the only thing I have read. Sounds like a horrible situation to have happen.

 

[Dimidiata]

Geez, talk about horro story.

 

[Destiny]

that is so sad on so many levels.. thanks for finding that Justin.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Any idea why the two original died or what became of the ones that were sold off?

 

[justindh1]

What I have read on the internet, this topic is one that Urban Gecko hasn't talked about much at all. From different forums, people have contacted them about the black pearl and all they say is that they aren't working with them anymore. I am sure it is one that brings knots to your stomach every time you think about it. I would like to get an official story on the issue as it may hold keys to the future of the black pearl.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Thanks for the updates, Justin.

 

[Russellm0704]

Makes me wonder who has a hold of the remaining black pearls

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Black Pearls received amazing marketing and were over hyped prior to their release. I have seen them in person and know people who work with them and I still don't like them. I would not be amazed if it were yet another marketing scam...like their Toffee/Toffino balls.

 

[GeckoDude31]

New Leopard gecko Morph!! BLACK PEARL

Search that title in YouTube.

 

[Destiny]

I like them! I really like Hyper mels... anyway.. it is sad that we wont see them anytime soon..

 

[kkigs]

Looks like JMG is working with them in some form or another... http://jmgreptile.com/morphupdates.html

 

[LeopardShade]

I would not be amazed if it were yet another marketing scam...like their Toffee/Toffino balls.

I know that this does not pertain to this topic, but I've been very interested in the Toffee balls and the genetics behind them? Are they a marketing scam? If so, what are they really?

 

[lillith]

JMG outcrossed into their charcoal project, which I *think* is linebred.
I'm totally excited about charcoals. I <3 them!

 

[SFgeckos]

I've seen all the drama unfolding with the Toffee ball python project and it truly sickens me. I hope that the Black Pearl project wasn't a similar situation, but it wouldn't shock me if the real truth has been hidden from the public. I feel extremely sorry for those hobbyists who may have fallen victim to carefully planned and executed marketing ploys.

It is quite unfortunate that the industry is deteriorating within itself when there are so many outside influences trying to limit, ban and destroy the hobby. I can only wish those fulltime career breeders can focus not just on turning their dream into a living, but consistently produce the best results in the rarest breeding project: ethics.

Jon

 

[SFgeckos]

Are Black Pearls really genetic and recessive as originally sold to the public? Who really scammed who?

I still think they are very beautiful geckos as adults!

I was emailed this link on the latest update with the Black Pearls so I'm posting it here for others interested:


http://www.ts-geckos.com/blackpearl.htm

"However early in the 2011 season, we received some news from The Urban Gecko that would change the way we would be working with the morph, this news firstly shook all of our plans, but secondly meant we would have to delay the update and possible release of Black Pearl offspring that would be due in the coming months.

We can now reveal how this news affected us, and why the delays have been so crucial.

Craig from The Urban Gecko described events to us regarding his Black Pearl collection, that were to leave us gob smacked!

He told us how, upon receiving the entire Black Pearl collection, he made a viable business decision to re-coup some of his investment. This meant that he sold ALL but two of the original visual Black Pearl's to various people around the world. This left TUG with a bunch of het Black Pearls that would produce a generous number of visuals the following season…. or so they thought.

Before the two original geckos could be bred both died, which meant the large group of hets were now Craig's only chance of visuals.
The season following TUG's acquisition, they bred these hets, but the results left them shocked…. They did not hatch a single Black Pearl, and have yet to hatch a visual Black Pearl from any of the geckos in the "het Black Pearl" group they received from Living Art Geckos.

It then became apparent that The Urban Gecko had fallen victim of one of the biggest scams in the reptile world for many years. What made it worse was that TUG had no Black Pearls in their possession what so ever, and no easy way of finding if any of the "hets" were in fact carrying the Black Pearl gene.

Although at the expense of TUG which was very disappointing, it meant our Black Pearl's values had soared in a matter of minutes. We faced the dilemma of releasing the hets we had planned to sell in 2011, with the world thinking there was still a lot more BP's out there and they weren't as valuable as we were making out, or holding back everything for another year…. The later is what we opted for."