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[Dreamgeckos.com]

If you look at my previous posts you will see the mother is a super snow raptor not Patty albino. he stated he was told it was from tremper patternless not murphy patternless





therefore conclusion DREAMSICLE

see now this is info that realy helped me out

Thank you my friend!

 

[Halley]

I agree with the others pictures of the parents would make it easier for the rest of us to determine what you actually have.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Nevermind

 

[yellermelon]

Who sold you the Tremper Enigma that is 100% raptor but is also 33% het patternless??? That sounds like a very unique animal being that not many people were working with 100% het embers back in 2007... Take a dorsal view picture that is not over exposed...

Im gonna go with Dreamsickle as my finall answer lol... Make sure you keep us updated on this one got lots of people wondering now! LOL Congrats again a dreamsickle is a amazing animal to have hatched!

 

[Mel&Keith]

Link to the parent pics from the other thread- http://www.geckoforums.net/showpost.php?p=336993&postcount=31

It definitely makes more sense if the mom is a "Patternless Stripe" and not a Murphy's Patternless. This is why all the names get so confusing and lead to accidental mislabeling! LOL

 

[preacherman]

If you look at my previous posts you will see the mother is a super snow raptor not Patty albino. he stated he was told it was from tremper patternless not murphy patternless


therefore conclusion DREAMSICLE

He stated the mother was a Super Snow Patternles Tremper Albino, NOT a Super Snow R.A.P.T.O.R. Does anyone even have an adult female Super Snow R.A.P.T.O.R.??

 

[THE WHISPERER]

no you didnt , dont say stuff you didnt ask in anny post if you want a pic il put it up just ask dont be the "smart guy "

Not trying to flare any thing up, but a dorsal picture was ask for. I've been waiting to veiw it as well.

 

[Gregg M]

no you didnt , dont say stuff you didnt ask in anny post if you want a pic il put it up just ask dont be the "smart guy "

I certainly did ask for a dorsal photo in the other thread titled "What am I (Hatchling)" you posted about this same hatchling... Page 5, post #42.... You ignored it...

Take a dorsal view picture that is not over exposed...

Why call me a "smart guy" in a negative way??? Are you upset that your hatchling clearly is not what you thought it was or is it the fact that you do not even know the genetics behind the animals you are breeding... Are you mad at me for being correct from the start???

 

[desertgecko]

He stated the mother was a Super Snow Patternles Tremper Albino, NOT a Super Snow R.A.P.T.O.R. Does anyone even have an adult female Super Snow R.A.P.T.O.R.??

Yeah, thats why I made that comment. I didn't realise he corrected the mothers morph, my bad. In that case I agree its a Dreamsickle then.

 

[Gregg M]

Judging by the genetics of the parents and the dorsal photo, I am going to say its a Dreamsicle and clearly not a Mack Snow Tremper Patternless albino Enigma... If I did not call you out on this, we may have never gotten to the bottom of what this hatchling is...
Sorry if I sounded like a jerk, but just saying "hey awesome leo" does not solve genetics questions...

Now that it is all figured out, VERY NICE DREAMSICLE!!!!

 

[Leopard.Geckerz]

Judging by the genetics of the parents and the dorsal photo, I am going to say its a Dreamsicle and clearly not a Mack Snow Tremper Patternless Enigma... If I did not call you out on this, we may have never gotten to the bottom of what this hatchling is...
Sorry if I sounded like a jerk, but just saying "hey awesome leo" does not solve genetics questions...

Now that it is all figured out, VERY NICE DREAMSICLE!!!!

Very true. It's better to be educated, even if it isn't the answer you immediately hoped for.

Very nice gecko none the less.

 

[nevinm]

i say mack APTOR enigma since only one of the parents carried the RAPTOR gene

 

[spykerherps]

He stated the mother was a Super Snow Patternles Tremper Albino, NOT a Super Snow R.A.P.T.O.R. Does anyone even have an adult female Super Snow R.A.P.T.O.R.??

He did state that it was a SSPTA but I believe he was wrong. I believe from the picture of the mother he gave it looks like a Super Snow Raptor/Aptor.

he did say "from the Tremper line is what i was told". so I'm presuming its the patternless stripe "Tremper" gene which is how you get Raptors and Aptors and not the murph patty gene.

Dreamsicle Case Closed.

 

[Nigel4less]

He did state that it was a SSPTA but I believe he was wrong. I believe from the picture of the mother he gave it looks like a Super Snow Raptor/Aptor.

he did say "from the Tremper line is what i was told". so I'm presuming its the patternless stripe "Tremper" gene which is how you get Raptors and Aptors and not the murph patty gene.

Dreamsicle Case Closed.

:main_yes:

 

[preacherman]

He did state that it was a SSPTA but I believe he was wrong. I believe from the picture of the mother he gave it looks like a Super Snow Raptor/Aptor.

he did say "from the Tremper line is what i was told". so I'm presuming its the patternless stripe "Tremper" gene which is how you get Raptors and Aptors and not the murph patty gene.

Dreamsicle Case Closed.

Okay, I give up. Somewhere along the line this thread tossed logic under the bus.

 

[DLS Reptile]

I'll tell ya exactly what it is. It's a damn nice gecko that I wish I had...

 

[miamimike]

As the song says.."Let it grow, let it grow, let it grow"..oh maybe that tune is "let it snow"....but i think the writer of the song was mistaken and meant "let it grow".....case closed on that tune....

I'm personally going to say Bell blazing on this little hatchling though.....I think that both parents could have been het bell blazing and it was not revealed....its obvious to me...bell blazing....maybe mack bell blazing....possibly even a mack bell blazing radar.....yeah yeah...thats it...lets not wait on this one...can I help you name it?!.....

Im OF COURSE goofing around here....but holycow!...can we not close any cases until it has AT LEAST shed a couple times??....

Relax and enjoy...its awesome whatever it is....

 

[Okee Reps]

I cannot say Dreamsickle knowing what the parents were first stated as. This one will have to be proven out. I might be wrong but it seems odd that so many are willing to change what the mother was in order to make the offspring make sense.

 

[eyelids]

Okay, I give up. Somewhere along the line this thread tossed logic under the bus.

I'm with you Jason... Btw, I think it's a MSTE that just hasn't gotten pattern yet... Nothing more, nothing less...

 

[nevinm]

thats what im saying michael. i wish someone would show me where its said that both parents have RAPTOR genes. that would be needed to make a dreamsickle would it not?