How much would I get for the offspring of these two?

[Dog Shrink]

I'm not even going to comment on that.

Heyyy... was that a jab at me???

 

[prettyinpink]

Heyyy... was that a jab at me???

No way silly!

 

[IslaReina]

I'm not trying to be rude, but if you had done any research at all, you what know what "het" means. Looking through these forums and doing searches on the internet will help you to come up with questions that people have previously asked that are the exact same as the questions you have now.

I know it is tempting and very easy to just post a new thread asking your simple questions, but if you ask a simple question that has been beaten to death already by the experts they do not want to type out another long thread about the same topic, they will refer you to previous threads. This is why you are not getting many "spoonfed" answers like Dog Shrink is referring to them as.

There are tons of links at the top of this page of breeders. Look through their websites and see the prices on their normal het blizzard or hypo het blizzard babies. They probably won't be very high, but you can base your prices off of them.

I don't know how to say this without being blunt... you will NOT make an income. Maybe after like 10 years of breeding, but NOT in your first year. Think of everything you need to buy to breed...

Incubator

Enough space. Females can lay about 10 clutches of eggs per season, that's 20 babies. Do you have 20 individual tanks? You must prepare to keep EVERY SINGLE baby if you can't find homes. This is worst case scenario thinking.
(although you said you had a ton of tanks from previous reptiles)

Substrate (Vermiculite for laying, Perlite, etc. for incubation)

Heating pads for all the tanks (20 tanks, at about $20 per heat pad... that's $400 right there)

Food for all babies and parents.

Hides for everyone (although these can be made free... start stocking up on tupperware)

These are just the basics. And selling your babies at $20 each AFTER spending all this money... You'll be LUCKY to make up for half of it in your first year.

EDIT: rereading that... you'll be lucky to make like 1/8 of your spending haha, not 1/2

 

[SidAndCira]

I'm not even going to comment on that.

Like I said here earlier NO ONE is attacking you, we're all here to HELP. If you don't take it that way, there's nothing we can do about it.

Sorry we didn't see that you were doing your research, and that you have enough money to provide for your babies...if you decide to breed.
But most of us, (I can only speak for myself) don't like the first thing out of someones mouth 'how much can I make'. I personally don't like hearing that. I'm not sure what other questions you've asked about breeding, because I didn't see them. Only thing I saw that was close is if you can house a male and female together without getting pregant.

You're being extreamly rude to all of us that are here helping you...or at least trying to help you. If you don't want us, fine. But we're all here to help...that's what we're here for.

Wish you the best of luck on whatever you decide.

Then don't, rofl. He Dog Shrink has had wise inputs and they've helped me, if you have a problem with that then that's fine. And, again, I never said anyone was attacking, nor did I think anyone was, so you can stop saying that. I just don't like how people comment without reading thoroughly, and I've said that about five times now. If you don't like people selling leopard geckos or saying, "how much can I make," then don't read/comment the forum, I never understood why people involve themselves into things they dislike. It was just a question, I never said I was going to breed, I NEVER said I was going to breed my female until she croaked, it was a question out of my curiosity. Nothing more, so I don't understand why you got so mad about it. I'm not being rude, you just read my paragraphs as me being rude. I am thankful for the people who answered my question and for the people trying to help. I am not thankful to the obnoxious people that assume things and don't read.

 

[SidAndCira]

You're welcome and the reason I haven't been able to answer a lot of your questions about breeding is honestly because I'm clueless there myself as well I don't breed, have no desire to breed, so I haven't done a lot of research on the matter.

I think what is getting people going is when they see amature questions like this one you posted "Could you tell me what... "Het" means? " or comments like this "or housed with my male. She was the first day I got her but they didn't even make contact after she shoved him away, a day later she was put into her own cage" As was said, always quarintine... even 5 seconds of exposure or contact with eachother is enough to pass deadly disease or parasites to eachother.

It's fine! Your inputs have helped me lots! And yes, I know... but everything I have read about leopard geckos and breeding said nothing about "het," which is why I asked here.

 

[Dog Shrink]

Um just an fyi hon... Dog Shrink is a SHE

Is me Kellee

 

[SidAndCira]

I'm not trying to be rude, but if you had done any research at all, you what know what "het" means. Looking through these forums and doing searches on the internet will help you to come up with questions that people have previously asked that are the exact same as the questions you have now.

I know it is tempting and very easy to just post a new thread asking your simple questions, but if you ask a simple question that has been beaten to death already by the experts they do not want to type out another long thread about the same topic, they will refer you to previous threads. This is why you are not getting many "spoonfed" answers like Dog Shrink is referring to them as.

There are tons of links at the top of this page of breeders. Look through their websites and see the prices on their normal het blizzard or hypo het blizzard babies. They probably won't be very high, but you can base your prices off of them.

I don't know how to say this without being blunt... you will NOT make an income. Maybe after like 10 years of breeding, but NOT in your first year. Think of everything you need to buy to breed...

Incubator

Enough space. Females can lay about 10 clutches of eggs per season, that's 20 babies. Do you have 20 individual tanks? You must prepare to keep EVERY SINGLE baby if you can't find homes. This is worst case scenario thinking.
(although you said you had a ton of tanks from previous reptiles)

Substrate (Vermiculite for laying, Perlite, etc. for incubation)

Heating pads for all the tanks (20 tanks, at about $20 per heat pad... that's $400 right there)

Food for all babies and parents.

Hides for everyone (although these can be made free... start stocking up on tupperware)

These are just the basics. And selling your babies at $20 each AFTER spending all this money... You'll be LUCKY to make up for half of it in your first year.

EDIT: rereading that... you'll be lucky to make like 1/8 of your spending haha, not 1/2

You can think that,t hat's fine! But again, I have read countless caresheets and breeding tips/guides and caresheets, none of them said anything about "het." So I asked here to get correct information rather than incorrect, and rather than someone just answering the darn question I get, "YOU SHOULDN'T BREED IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS," or, "Wow you don't know what het means?" etc.

I wasn't trying to make an income... I can't say that enough. x_x I have 10 tanks, a hova-bator that came with perlite, cups, etc... THOUSANDS of crickets and mealworms, etc, etc. I have everything I need to breed them, but I don't want to breed them YET. Again, my question on how much they'd go for was just out of curiosity, not because I want to breed them(YET)! Thank you, though! Your post was very helpful.

 

[SidAndCira]

Um just an fyi hon... Dog Shrink is a SHE

Is me Kellee

Sorry, just so used to it being boys on here, haha. I love your hair. T__T

 

[Dog Shrink]

If I may... you might possibly want to stop putting up the things that people have said that pissed you off... move beyond that and just kinda start over... reboot... breathe... know what I mean hon? Most people interested in helping with this thread WILL actually read 99% of it, they'll see what was said, unless they get aggravated seeing you gripe about everyone's comments then you'll get nowhere...

THank you and I know what you mean... it does seem like a male dominated society and the hair... well it's shorter now but it will be back there by summer...

 

[SidAndCira]

If I may... you might possibly want to stop putting up the things that people have said that pissed you off... move beyond that and just kinda start over... reboot... breathe... know what I mean hon? Most people interested in helping with this thread WILL actually read 99% of it, they'll see what was said, unless they get aggravated seeing you gripe about everyone's comments then you'll get nowhere...

THank you and I know what you mean... it does seem like a male dominated society and the hair... well it's shorter now but it will be back there by summer...

You're right, thank you. <3

 

[Dog Shrink]

No prob

 

[Reborn]

Can't believe I missed this but YES that IS a Flemish Giant he is holding... not too many people know what they are... kudos for you

Used to breed a few breeds of bunny Flemmies were my favs(lion manes too) LOL But had to stop that>.< when people called wanting to know if they could get some for there snake food=-= I know they need ta eat but i couldnt sell the babies I raised just to be eaten(healthy babies).

Tip to the OP. I havent read ALL the posts but most of them>.< Even if people take a shot at you, give you blunt truth, or "sugar coat" it, just thank them for the answer or ignor it. When you get upset and start being rude to them it really makes a impression on the senior members, ones who will give you the best imput as they've been doing it a while. If you sound like kid throwing a tantrum(not a shot at ya!) then they wont answer and will just ignor it.

For the record too! I am female...Dont got a pic to post but;D I know what ya both mean there all my friends seem to be males(reptile friends)

 

[Dog Shrink]

Small world aye reborn... I really don't want to tell you what happens to my bunnies that don't make show grade... it would likely make you cringe... Fortunately tho I do have a good pet outlet for some of the buns before I need to consider the "other" places. Also now that the ARBA has passed a standard of perfection on the lions... they're called Lion Heads...

"Tip to the OP. I havent read ALL the posts but most of them>.< Even if people take a shot at you, give you blunt truth, or "sugar coat" it, just thank them for the answer or ignor it. When you get upset and start being rude to them it really makes a impression on the senior members, ones who will give you the best imput as they've been doing it a while. If you sound like kid throwing a tantrum(not a shot at ya!) then they wont answer and will just ignor it."

Ditto

 

[Jordan]

Yes, I said that. And quarantine... they're in separate cages, so. so you can chill... I am doing some research now by asking questions, am I not? Rofl.

I know this quote was a while ago, but since it was addressed to me i'll reply.

Yes you did say that. you said you put them in together when you first got them... so im not quite sure you understand qurantine.
AANNND since everyone says you need to do more research including me im going to provide you with some helpful info on quarantine.

Quarantine, is used when getting a new gecko. The new gecko you get must not go near ANY of your gecko's that you already had. The reason for this is, it may be carrying parasitic diseases, airbourne diseases or just other general bad things that can very easily be passed on, it can take only a second. Quarantine is also helpful for observing your new gecko, making sure it is shedding, eating and pooing correctly.
Ideally a quarantined gecko should be in a seperate room and barely even catch site of any of your other (already owned) gecko's for at least sixty days, until you know its healthy and not going to cause any harm to any of the others. Also not costing you a ton in vet bills. Some people also like to get a fecal exam for their new gecko sort of as part of the quarantine period.

Anyway thats all about qurantine... so when you said 'i put them in together when i first got them' ... that was a bad idea. But now you know better for next time.

Well, if you read thoroughly, I never said I was breeding them NOW, all I did was ask about how much they'd go for
.

i also never said you were breeding them now... i just suggested you wait at least a year and gain more experience and understanding of everything needed to know.

so you can chill... I am doing some research now by asking questions, am I not? Rofl.

And its an attitude like that which is the reason a few breeders are getting annoyed with you.
You came to here what the experts say, so listen to what they say.

 

[Reborn]

Small world aye reborn... I really don't want to tell you what happens to my bunnies that don't make show grade... it would likely make you cringe... Fortunately tho I do have a good pet outlet for some of the buns before I need to consider the "other" places. Also now that the ARBA has passed a standard of perfection on the lions... they're called Lion Heads...

"Tip to the OP. I havent read ALL the posts but most of them>.< Even if people take a shot at you, give you blunt truth, or "sugar coat" it, just thank them for the answer or ignor it. When you get upset and start being rude to them it really makes a impression on the senior members, ones who will give you the best imput as they've been doing it a while. If you sound like kid throwing a tantrum(not a shot at ya!) then they wont answer and will just ignor it."

Ditto

...I read one of your posts>.> about your ex-marine husband...Yeah lol I may not like it but your breeding for show quality and not all make it there:/ The ones that make it to pet homes are the lucky ones;D If ya were closer id take a pair of does for pets(miss them) lol but ya dont. When i was breeding them i never showed but a friend did and I allowed them to take the shows(one had won multipule times:]) I was breeding more for colors there too(had a half orange face, half gray, with all kinds crazy markings down it(white toe) it came outta our pets and that one just amazing. He was the last bunny i had, but thats so off topicXD

I have to agree strongly with Jordan on the quarantine. Even if you know and trust the breed your getting from. You NEVER know. You cant predict the future. It'd be so troublesome to get rid of parasites in a colony>.> I dunno if you've delt with parasites but its just a nightmare. I take in rescues so I always quaranteen for 3 months MINIMUM! My "breeders" havent caught nothing and only one rescue has had parasites luckily. I quaranteen each rescue in seperate rooms even just to make sure a new one doesnt give old ones something. You can NEVER be to careful. If you really wanna open a shop then you will be quaranteen alot. You may have put her with him for a moment but that one second is all it take.

This forum is one of the greatest thing you will be using in your quest for knowledge! I studied for over a year on genetics, care, husbandry, everything i could get and even now im still finding out things. Like one of my babies hatched premiture...Nothing i read covered what to do or how to go about it. Luckily all my knowledge on care worked and the babys alive now(tho its 3 weeks and only 3 grams..small baby) I am fully willing to keep her for her life. I am choosing to breed enigmas(ones that do not spin) and im fully willing to keep them if need be...and cull the ones that cant survive on there own. Thats something your gonna need to come to terms with. Culling. Its not fun. Its not pretty. Its the worst feeling the first few times but you will need to do it to be a responsible breeder. To release defective babies into the world that may breed them, ones that may have gentic issuses is terrrible. Read, read, read, read, and readddddddddddddddddddddd read till your eyes itch, read till your head feels heavy, read till your thinking geckos all the time(lol) ask questions yes. I limit myself to a question a week(havent needed to ask that often) as ive found the answers out myself threw reading. You'll know if breeding is for you when youre learning everything you can. Either itll break you and or itll make breeding all the more worth wild.

 

[SidAndCira]

Anyway thats all about qurantine... so when you said 'i put them in together when i first got them' ... that was a bad idea. But now you know better for next time.

Thank you, I didn't think that would be a problem since it came from Steve, which is a good breeder. Now I know to do that next time.

No, people are "annoyed" with me because they misread or assume things, I didn't start getting an attitude until everyone started assuming and believing what they wanted to. I'm not going to listen to someone who has no idea what they're saying or what I've stated.

 

[SidAndCira]

I have to agree strongly with Jordan on the quarantine. Even if you know and trust the breed your getting from. You NEVER know. You cant predict the future. It'd be so troublesome to get rid of parasites in a colony>.> I dunno if you've delt with parasites but its just a nightmare. I take in rescues so I always quaranteen for 3 months MINIMUM! My "breeders" havent caught nothing and only one rescue has had parasites luckily. I quaranteen each rescue in seperate rooms even just to make sure a new one doesnt give old ones something. You can NEVER be to careful. If you really wanna open a shop then you will be quaranteen alot. You may have put her with him for a moment but that one second is all it take.

This forum is one of the greatest thing you will be using in your quest for knowledge! I studied for over a year on genetics, care, husbandry, everything i could get and even now im still finding out things. Like one of my babies hatched premiture...Nothing i read covered what to do or how to go about it. Luckily all my knowledge on care worked and the babys alive now(tho its 3 weeks and only 3 grams..small baby) I am fully willing to keep her for her life. I am choosing to breed enigmas(ones that do not spin) and im fully willing to keep them if need be...and cull the ones that cant survive on there own. Thats something your gonna need to come to terms with. Culling. Its not fun. Its not pretty. Its the worst feeling the first few times but you will need to do it to be a responsible breeder. To release defective babies into the world that may breed them, ones that may have gentic issuses is terrrible. Read, read, read, read, and readddddddddddddddddddddd read till your eyes itch, read till your head feels heavy, read till your thinking geckos all the time(lol) ask questions yes. I limit myself to a question a week(havent needed to ask that often) as ive found the answers out myself threw reading. You'll know if breeding is for you when youre learning everything you can. Either itll break you and or itll make breeding all the more worth wild.

Thanks! I'm reading, haha, I've been reading since I got back from my appointment. Thanks for your useful input!

 

[Dog Shrink]

This forum is one of the greatest thing you will be using in your quest for knowledge! I studied for over a year on genetics, care, husbandry, everything i could get and even now im still finding out things. Like one of my babies hatched premiture...Nothing i read covered what to do or how to go about it. Luckily all my knowledge on care worked and the babys alive now(tho its 3 weeks and only 3 grams..small baby) I am fully willing to keep her for her life. I am choosing to breed enigmas(ones that do not spin) and im fully willing to keep them if need be...and cull the ones that cant survive on there own. Thats something your gonna need to come to terms with. Culling. Its not fun. Its not pretty. Its the worst feeling the first few times but you will need to do it to be a responsible breeder. To release defective babies into the world that may breed them, ones that may have gentic issuses is terrrible. Read, read, read, read, and readddddddddddddddddddddd read till your eyes itch, read till your head feels heavy, read till your thinking geckos all the time(lol) ask questions yes. I limit myself to a question a week(havent needed to ask that often) as ive found the answers out myself threw reading. You'll know if breeding is for you when youre learning everything you can. Either itll break you and or itll make breeding all the more worth wild.

:main_thumbsup: Amen sista

 

[Jordan]

I'm not going to listen to someone who has no idea what they're saying or what I've stated.

i hope you dont mean me... because i know what im talking about and ive followed this thread from the beginning.
i dont consider myself an expert or anyhing, but i like to think i know my stuff (and im sure people, well i hope people will agree) about gecko's and breeding them.

 

[Dog Shrink]

Bah Jordan you don't know Jack Admit it, you've been playin us all along haven't you :main_lipsrsealed:


*Disclamer.... this is pure sarcasm... not to be taken as serious imput*