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Maybe somebody stole the package/box?
From: "Dave, Small Pet Feeders" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 2:13 pm
Subject: New Form Entry: Contact Form
To: <[email protected]>
How much of a difference are we looking at? With regular orders, with the proper invoice documentation, I can convince my distributor to shrink his size of the pie as we’ve been releasing around 100,000 crickets monthly into the wild due to overstock.
Additionally, if our competitor offered you $13.50 per box shipped for 2000 crickets, and you have a copy of this invoice, we would be happy to see what we can do to help you with that.
Honestly, $13.50 a box was below what we would offer our standard Breeder Program client, so we didn’t make enough to justify the work to this point. I’d be interested in helping your with 5000 crickets for $12 a box plus shipping, past that I would need a competitors invoice to match any other deals.
We don’t offer 3 month contracts. I really wouldn’t want to have you agree to something you’re not comfortable with, with a product you’re not happy with, at a price you can do better with. If you’d like to agree to a 12 month agreement, I’d be willing to match the price you pay locally, but at $67.50 I make next to nothing and can no longer honor it without our competitor’s invoice, as per our company policies.
Maybe somebody stole the package/box?
I overlooked your order because we had a side arrangement that was not part of our regular prices, you know that. I immediately took responsibility and apologized, to use that occurrence is just underhanded. And even so, how does that point to any issue of dishonesty with my company? If anything, it shows I'm not afraid to take responsibility when the fault is mine to take.
Honestly, if you would have received two, or even one shipment, that was dead on arrival, a refund or second replacement wouldn't be an issue. The problem lies with your character as you have represented it to me.
So I've never asked you for an invoice to prove your claims of lower prices elsewhere? I can quote emails too..
As I said, I asked you repeatedly for the invoice proving your claims of receiving lower prices elsewhere, not once did you ever produce an invoice to substantiate your claims. Please stop denying ever asking for a lower price or that I never asked you for a competitors invoice, as the content of these emails speaks otherwise.
I'm not going to bicker with you on an internet messageboard, Dennis. I apologize to all of you who have to waste their time reading this when they could be reading more positive content in relation to their geckos and other pets. I hope I've proved my position with my responses.
The reason for this post was to get others opinions.
they are still welcome.
Sounds like you two are not compatable to deal with eachother.
Someone IS stealing the package, he'll probably get a refund from Paypal due to lack of proof of shipment. Honestly, the amount of time I've invested already in dealing with Dennis as a honest human being, I'd probably pay $70 just to be rid of him as I don't believe he's been completely truthful since the beginning.
Samuel jackson, Dear lord people this is a bit of a mess. Has it occured to anyone that the crickets simply arnt reaching anyone? Shit happens, and fast. I was wondering if you two could just compromise? Possibly just refund one order of crickets and call it quits. For no reason should anyone be assuming anyone else is lying. Those types of things just cause issues. Why dont you place eachother in the others shoes. On one hand you have a feeder seller. He is an honnest man and has sold many shipments of crickets before, he has sent someone 2 orders and both have been claimed DOAs, now the customer wants a refund. He has no way of telling if they are lying or not. Understandable
NOW you have a breeder, he has ordered 2 shippments(ok 1 shippments with a replacment.) Neither have arrived and he needs the feeders. He has no idea what happend, is the seller lying, did the crixs not make it for some reason? He wants a refund for a product he didnt recive. Understandable.
Bottom line is this, there is no way of telling wich of you is lying and theres no point in arguing over a hopless topic. Why dont we just make a compromise?
Honestly i dont want to see you guys fight. Your both big contributers here, and we dont need drama, we need to stay togather and keep the forum strong. The minute we start ripping eachother new ones is when it all goes bye bye. So shall we shake and make up? You dont have to like eachother and i dont exspect you to do business again but if we could cohabbit togather and work togather when needed for the better of the forum and the new members who stroll,stumble, glide, fall flat in here itd be nice.
Samuel jackson, Dear lord people this is a bit of a mess. Has it occured to anyone that the crickets simply arnt reaching anyone? Shit happens, and fast. I was wondering if you two could just compromise? Possibly just refund one order of crickets and call it quits. For no reason should anyone be assuming anyone else is lying. Those types of things just cause issues. Why dont you place eachother in the others shoes. On one hand you have a feeder seller. He is an honnest man and has sold many shipments of crickets before, he has sent someone 2 orders and both have been claimed DOAs, now the customer wants a refund. He has no way of telling if they are lying or not. Understandable
NOW you have a breeder, he has ordered 2 shippments(ok 1 shippments with a replacment.) Neither have arrived and he needs the feeders. He has no idea what happend, is the seller lying, did the crixs not make it for some reason? He wants a refund for a product he didnt recive. Understandable.
Bottom line is this, there is no way of telling wich of you is lying and theres no point in arguing over a hopless topic. Why dont we just make a compromise?
if paypal action has already been taken i dont see the point in slander and bullying spf. it wont accomplish anything. cut your losses and dont deal with eachother again.