Super Hypo Tangerine X Murphy patternless

[Sammag]

The name says it all. What would breeding these to morphs result in?

Thanks,
Sam

 

[BSM]

varying degrees of tangerine all het for patternless

 

[Sammag]

Would the patternless factor cause the tangerines to be any more pristine with more lack of stripes, dots, etc. as adults.

Also wat would the a bell albino X tangerine het for patternless yield? thanks for the reply by the way

 

[Nir]

tangerine het 100%bell and 50%het patternless

 

[herpencounter]

Tangs, 100% het. patty.

tangerine het 100%bell and 50%het patternless

+1

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

+1, and the amount and quality of the tangerine in the babies will be influenced by the breeding tang.

 

[robin]

sam here is some info on genetics this might help you figure out the possible outcomes http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=46478

 

[Sammag]

Thanks for the quick replies guys.

The understandng of genetics is still a skill that alludes me ahah.

 

[Sammag]

O guys so after reading through that article I only have one question: Is a super hypo baldy (a line-bred trait) reccesive or dominant or co-dominant?

Just to make sure patternless is a reccesive trait correct?

Thanks,
Sam

 

[T-ReXx]

Super Hypo Baldy(and Hypo, Baldy, carrot tail, carrot head, tang, etc) is line-bred, or Polygenic, which is neither recessive, dom, or co-dom. You can't get a het for SHTCT, and you can't get a true "super" form like co-doms(snows, giants.) Traits in this category can only be improved by breeding together animals that are visual examples of the trait. It is linked to multiple genes and can only be worked with via line-breeding. That being said, if a non-hypo is bred to a super hypo, the offspring will usually show varying degrees of hypo influence, ie. less spotting.

 

[Sammag]

Super Hypo Baldy(and Hypo, Baldy, carrot tail, carrot head, tang, etc) is line-bred, or Polygenic, which is neither recessive, dom, or co-dom. You can't get a het for SHTCT, and you can't get a true "super" form like co-doms(snows, giants.) Traits in this category can only be improved by breeding together animals that are visual examples of the trait. It is linked to multiple genes and can only be worked with via line-breeding. That being said, if a non-hypo is bred to a super hypo, the offspring will usually show varying degrees of hypo influence, ie. less spotting.

But this is where I get lost, if the offspring take on the hypo appearence than if bred with patternless won't the offspring contain no spotting with charateristics of both parents. i.e. bright orange, spotless tail, etc.?

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

no, patternless is genetic not line bred like tangerine. So all of the offspring will be various tangerine influence het for patternless.

 

[T-ReXx]

I think your confusing line-bred and recessive. I'll try to simplify it. If you breed a recessive gecko with a gecko who has no genes for that particular trait the babies will look nothing like the recessive(for example) patternless parent, but will carry the genes for it, so if bred together, or back to the patternless, the next generation will have some patternless offspring in it. Now with SHTCTB, a line bred trait, its different. The parents will pass on some of the genes that are associated with the morph to their young, so you will get some visible influence in the first generation. But they won't be as "hypo" as the parent. So, as Travis stated, with Patternless(recessive) X SHTCTB(line-bred), you will get babies that look "kinda like" the SHTCTB and all carry the patternless gene but do not express it visually(het).

 

[Gazz]

Patternless(Recesssive).
Hypo(Dominant).
Super in hypo(Polygenic).
Tangerine(Polygenic).

[1C]Super hypo tangerine X Patternless = .

Normal HET Patternless.
[1C]Hypo HET Patternless.

A pecent of offspring will likely be influanced by tangerine.
A percent of Hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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[2C]Super hypo tangerine X Patternless = .

[1C]Hypo HET Patternless.

A pecent of offspring will likely be influanced by tangerine.
A percent of Hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.