Super Snow WHAT?!

[NinjaDuo]

I am pretty amazed anyone would cite the ever modifiable wiki as a source.

Wikipedia is awesome btw.... It's very accurate no sarcasm lol

 

[stager]

Sorry if I started this I did realize a super snow bell was hard to come by. My Appologies to all

 

[Thorgecko707]

Well at least we found out it is mack eclipse. Probably Tremper Albino.

 

[Syn]

I always lurk on the forums but was directed to this thread by a friend. Got a kick out of it... have to say I wish I was still eating however I wanted and not watching my food intake because I'd be all over the popcorn right now.

I am pretty amazed anyone would cite the ever modifiable wiki as a source.

It's usually the first thing that pops up on google. :main_laugh:

Destiny on this forum when you use the word cull it tends to mean kill. Yes there are different definitions for it but here it means kill. If you have been here long enough you should know that. So if you meant something else maybe different wording would be best so there is no confusion.

Yikes, remind me to never post about a word that has more than one definition -- it might be the end of me. It's not too often a culling conversation comes up (for obvious reasons), and really if it's that big of a deal all someone had to ask was, "by culling, do you mean killing or removal from breeding?" It's really that simple.

 

[sunshinegeckos]

Syn its a gecko forum the word cull is used more frequently here then another type of forum. Of course some words have different meanings but here it usually means to euthanize. I can turn it around and ask is it that big of a deal to explain what they mean when they know the word is used here differently?

Wiki is not a bad source for information just as long as you don't use it as your only source.

 

[Syn]

Syn its a gecko forum the word cull is used more frequently here then another type of forum. Of course some words have different meanings but here it usually means to euthanize. I can turn it around and ask is it that big of a deal to explain what they mean when they know the word is used here differently?

Wiki is not a bad source for information just as long as you don't use it as your only source.

I'm not new to gecko forums if that's what you're implying. I realize here it may mean to euthanize but you have to realize that not everyone is "from here" or knows everything there is to know about a forum, regardless of how long they've been around. You can't expect everyone to believe the same thing you do or expect everyone to just know things.

You can turn it around, sure, have fun, but it's not necessarily your business to ask. Plus, again, who is to say they know?

Be right back, I'm going to go add some information to wikis because I can and it's an open source... :main_rolleyes:

 

[geckogirl3]

I thought cull meant to never breed it, but........

 

[sunshinegeckos]

I didn't say you were new to gecko forums. And also I never once said it was bad of her to cull them (even if she did mean kill). All I asked was for her reasoning behind the test breeding. So stop jumping down my throat for no reason. I can ask anything I want thank you very much. Thats what an open forum is for.

ok im done with this thread. Time to go spend some time with the family for the holiday.

 

[Syn]

I didn't say you were new to gecko forums. And also I never once said it was bad of her to cull them (even if she did mean kill). All I asked was for her reasoning behind the test breeding. So stop jumping down my throat for no reason. I can ask anything I want thank you very much. Thats what an open forum is for.

ok im done with this thread. Time to go spend some time with the family for the holiday.

I wasn't jumping down your throat, just offering another viewpoint. It's funny how things can get so easily confusing on a forum because it's not face to face...... Oh wait, didn't that already happen here? Hm..

Anyways.. have fun.

 

[Taquiq]

I thought cull meant to never breed it, but........

No, if you bothered reading this thread you would know that it meant to kill or to select :main_rolleyes:. There has been a very, well, interesting discussion and if you took the time to read it, people actually used the dictionary definitions of cull. You have backtracked the whole discussion with that comment. This is yet another one of your useless posts that most members are tired of reading and a big reason why you are on a lot of peoples ignore list.

 

[Thorgecko707]

I thought cull meant to never breed it, but........

And you also bread your geckos...... Muahahahaha!

 

[Wild West Reptile]

Does neyone haVe a Beeer I culd realllly use won?. ¢("

 

[lillith]

Chris! TIMEOUT!
No more Guinness, either, hand it over.

 

[Destiny]

Wow I didn't realize I hit a nerve with you Sunshine? I'm sorry if I offended you. I don't think any of my comments were directed at you though. I think my background has some to do with why my definition of cull differs from the norm of this thread. I just turned 30, so Wild West and Im Faster, I am not a "little girl" lol. I have been raising herps since I was about 13 (I even bred my own feeders-mice and rats) and I raised geckos from about 2001-2006 on a small scale. Around that time a SHTCT baldy, which is what we bred, was all the rage and sold for about $250 and up for a nice one. Now, getting back into geckos a few months ago, I was very surprised to learn that they sell for about 10% of that for the same quality. The better ones sell for more, but that just goes to show how fast things change. From about 2004 to 2010 I bred Netherland Dwarf Rabbits. In that ring to say cull is more appropriate than kill because Peta would come to shows and read message boards similar to this and you know how Peta People react. While I do understand that killing is a form of culling, from my time as a rabbit breeder know that is not the only form of culling. I would rather not say how I plan to cull my hatchlings, as I am trying to avoid future devestation to my reputation as a breeder and heated debates. I will say that I do NOT plan on introducing to the breeding population. On the other hand, I also value life of all my geckos and don't know why certain individuals assumed I don't. In retrospect, some things could have been left unsaid, but when I was basically being labeled as a Pet Store buyer, I took it personally and things went down hill from there. I'm not going to go through my reasoning for purchasing my "Super Snow Bell" again, but I will say I had a difficult time locating that particular morph and they can be pricey. The dealer I purchased from, Christian Koleta, is a ex-breeder of leos and still breeds varieties of snakes. He knows his stuff and he has experience with different morphs. His store is about 50% leopard geckos, it's pretty wild. Nothing like it back in Idaho where we are from, but I guess by definition it is a pet store.
As far as test breeding her, I thought, and still believe, it was the right thing to do and after going public with it I was thinking maybe some of the forum members would like to know the results. I wasn't trying to pat myself on the back whatsoever. I didn't just go to the forum to seek advice either. I also talked with Ryan Jarosek, Rob Wegner, Justin (Wizards of the OZ) ,and a few local breeders about it and the test breeding was the practice recommended.
I also want to say that as far as having Pet Store geckos, my husband can attest that it just is not true. We spared no expense and have about 5k in our breeding stock. Our lines are primarily Steve Sykes and Ryan Jarosek, but we have other "big name" breeders in the mix as well. My husband and I are currently working on getting our website up and running, so the quality of the geckos we have aquired can be shared and credit for our breeders can be given as it is most definitely due.
I am not trying to start fights, and yes this is my second one. I will try to use my words more carefully, but I will also not take anything lying down . I hope we can put an end to all this silliness and I will continue to breed my "pet store" gecko lol!

 

[sunshinegeckos]

i replied to this in my thread but I never said what you were doing was wrong. I was trying to figure out your thought process in the event that I have to test breed for some reason. This whole thread just blew up and things were taken out of context.

 

[T-ReXx]

Culling is killing. Period. Anyone who cant deal with killing geckos should not breed geckos. It is.at times a necessity
And test breeding is a necessity as well.

 

[UnicornSpirit]

What a pretty find for petstore geckos! I would have snagged them too as long as they looked healthy.

 

[Syn]

Culling is killing. Period. Anyone who cant deal with killing geckos should not breed geckos. It is.at times a necessity
And test breeding is a necessity as well.

Spoken like a true breeder.

 

[UnicornSpirit]

Wiki is not a bad source for information just as long as you don't use it as your only source.

Wikipedia should NEVER be used as a source, don't even try to cite that poop... BUT it is a good starting point to help lead you to more... legit sources such as .edu sites. I can use 10+ other sources in a paper but if even one is Wikipedia that would make my research paper look like a joke. :main_thumbsdown:


Just sayin' (Sorry, I could not resist).

 

[NinjaDuo]

Wikipedia should NEVER be used as a source, don't even try to cite that poop... BUT it is a good starting point to help lead you to more... legit sources such as .edu sites. I can use 10+ other sources in a paper but if even one is Wikipedia that would make my research paper look like a joke. :main_thumbsdown:


Just sayin' (Sorry, I could not resist).

It's extremely accurate?