W/Y Eclipse het Tremper

geckoboa

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Thanks everyone. I took hundreds of photos to get to these. Geckos don't hold still long enough for getting good macro shots so it takes a lot of patience and a little luck.
 

Kristi23

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All im saying is its not an eclipse and eclipse eyes dont fade, there is noway you can have a fully black eyed animal and then the eye pigment changes never has that happen. And if you breed it to an eclipse and you hatch out eclipse babies it doesnt mean that it is an eclipse it just means that its het eclipse.

Eclipse eyes can fade. There have been eclipse (from eclipse x eclipse) hatch without the pigment but the white nose. The genetics are what makes it an eclipse.
 

Kristi23

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He looks like a w/y eclipse to me, but you'll want to test breed. He's very pretty!
 

ErnieG'sgeckos

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Smoking animal man but i cant agree with you guys with the fading of eye pigments and that eclipse can hatch out without black pigment in there eyes. The black pigment in there eyes is the main part of them being called eclipses in the first place so if your animal doesnt express black eyes or snake eyes how can u call it an eclipse?
 

geckoboa

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Smoking animal man but i cant agree with you guys with the fading of eye pigments and that eclipse can hatch out without black pigment in there eyes. The black pigment in there eyes is the main part of them being called eclipses in the first place so if your animal doesnt express black eyes or snake eyes how can u call it an eclipse?

Because genetically it is an eclipse. Yes it doesn't have pigment in it's eyes but the eyes are still affected by the gene where as a het would have no distinguishing markers. What do you call an eclipse with one eye 50% and one eye 0%? Not a het right? So when one is 0% on both eyes yet carries all other identifiers I chose to do the same. Again if you feel more comfortable calling it something else like abyssinian go ahead but the bottom line is this is not a het and genetically an animal that carries 2 copies for the eclipse gene. If I was to ever sell this animal or one like it I would make clear that it lacks eye pigment just as you would tell a customer the percentages of a snake eyed animal.
 

StellarExotics

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He is ABSOLUTELY stellar.... here's to hoping the ember that I got from Matt is this guys long lost cousin :main_rolleyes:, and pops out an eclipse lookin like him ;)


I can only dream.....LOL cheers.
 

Kristi23

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Smoking animal man but i cant agree with you guys with the fading of eye pigments and that eclipse can hatch out without black pigment in there eyes. The black pigment in there eyes is the main part of them being called eclipses in the first place so if your animal doesnt express black eyes or snake eyes how can u call it an eclipse?

I've probably hatched 100+ eclipse in the past five years. I've had a few with no eclipse eyes that have hatched out from an eclipse (with visual eclipse eyes) x eclipse (with visual eclipse eyes) pairing. It is the genetics (not always visual) that make it an eclipse. You might get full eclipse eye babies from that same animal. They just all vary.
 

Suncharmers

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Ahhh yes, absolutely breath takingly beautiful..... yes he took my breath away for a second... lol, send me one,,,,,
 

geckoboa

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Thanks again everyone! Here's one more...
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justindh1

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I don't see how I passed this thread over. Killer looking W&Y Eclipse. There isn't really many W&Y's that I believe resemble some of the first that came out several years ago. They contained pattern that really made you believe they were Enigmas but didn't have the Enigma eyes or syndrome. This one really looks like them to me.
 

CREATIVE GECKO

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He looks good bro. Did he hatch with pigment and it faded or is he coming from two visuals? I was talking to someone not too long ago and they didn't believe me that the pigment can fade.

I have a few that hatched snake eyes and faded...Dad shows no eclipse and mom is snake eyes....Ive gotten all over the spectrum from that pair

very nice gecko by the way
 

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