What morhp? ^^

[Tokto]

Is my Leo.

This girl born from Raptor possible het enigma(male) X Raptor eclip (but When the lizard out in the sun.+Eye color is dark red.)
Do you think that it is a morph. Thx


yep this pic is mom's

 

[DrCarrotTail]

I don't know much about enigmas but it looks like your gecko might be a reverse stripe hypo enigma that is probably het for RAPTOR.

Just a bit of info:
1. Enigma is a dominant trait so if your gecko was het enigma it would be an enigma.
2. From what I've read, the eye color of enigmas is an orange-ish color. That's probably why they look red out in the sun.
3. Saying a gecko is RAPTOR eclipse is redundant since in order to be a RAPTOR the gecko must have both tremper and eclipse.

 

[katie_]

It doesnt look enigma to me! Stumper.

 

[Maxwell]

Looks like a simple eclipse. The parents of the offspring dont seem to be what you thought they were, otherwise you would have a RAPTOR and an enigma RAPTOR(nova i believe?).

 

[SC Geckos]

Looks like a simple eclipse.

I don't see anything in the picture that would lead me to believe it is an Eclipse. No white nose, no white patches on the feet and legs, and no eclipse or snake eyes. All of these traits vary from animal to animal, but I don't see any of them.
I am not sure what that animal is.... other than a nice looking gecko. lol!
Do you have pictures of the father or any of this geckos siblings?

 

[Maxwell]

I was commenting on the pattern, the right eye is normal, but the left eye is unknown.

 

[SC Geckos]

I was commenting on the pattern, the right eye is normal, but the left eye is unknown.

Maybe its just me but I just dont see any indicators of this animal being an Eclipse.

 

[Maxwell]

If you look up an eclipse, they have quite a similar body pattern. There arent any indicators of eclipse, from what we can tell, and i was just judging by the body pattern. From the description of the parents, the gecko should be a RAPTOR, but it sounds as if there isn't a 100% as to what the gecko is, or what its parents are. The two bottom pictures appear to be a RAPTOR, but its unknown as to what the male is.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Pairing information can't be right and I don't see Tremper or Eclipse in this gecko at all. If I had to wager a bet as the pairing being Raptor x Raptor...I would assume that gecko is a dbl het Albino or the father is a super hypo and not an albino. Pictures of both parents as well as clutch details (other phenotypes from this pairing) would help a great deal in getting a more accurate ID.

 

[Tokto]

thx all for your comment . this picture is Raptor possible het enigma(male)

the gecko born 2012. The Gecko brothers are not already.
But this year the children from the same parents( Raptor possible het enigmamaleX Raptor female).

All baby eyes are not red.

If I take the gecko to backcross with the Father(Raptor possible het enigma). What do you think? thx for all ^^
Sry I'm not very good at English .

 

[SC Geckos]

If you look up an eclipse, they have quite a similar body pattern. There arent any indicators of eclipse, from what we can tell, and i was just judging by the body pattern.

I understand what you are trying to say I just don't see it. I don't need to look up pictures of an Eclipse because I breed them and have close to a dozen in my collection.

As for the picture of the father, It appears to me to be some sort of Enigma but I am not an expert on Enigmas. I see the red eyes which should come from the Albino gene, but it looks (at least from what I can see) that the gecko has black pigment on its tail which should not be there if it is an Albino. The same goes for the babies with the black pigment. Perhaps Travis will chime in again and say what he thinks.

If I take the gecko to cross with the Father(Raptor possible het enigma). What do you think?

Enigma is a Dominant trait so an animal can not be het for Enigma. If the animal has the Enigma trait it will be visually expressed. If it is not expressed, it does not carry the trait. An animal can only be het for a recessive trait.

 

[Tokto]

Enigma is a Dominant trait so an animal can not be het for Enigma. If the animal has the Enigma trait it will be visually expressed. If it is not expressed, it does not carry the trait. An animal can only be het for a recessive trait.

you means Enigma gene impossible for Heterozygous?? Show that my raptor (male) isn't het enigma?

thx for your opinion ^^

 

[Tokto]

The gecko maybe Het raptor? and i take the gecko crossback to her father can possible i got raptor ? or a little more or Do not.

 

[OhioGecko]

The Father looks to be a Bell Enigma and the mother is a RAPTOR. All the offspring will be double het Bell and Tremper.

 

[Tokto]

Ask for advice do you think that should be a good breed with the Father or his brothers.

What can a species Chance?

I'm not an expert about genetic


Thx you ^^

 

[stager]

If it is a cross of tremper and bell as it apears it should never be breed

 

[katie_]

All offspring that are double het bell and tremper should be PET only.
Some people would go as far to say that they should be culled.

 

[DrCarrotTail]

I would agree. The parents are both definitely albinos and the baby is not albino which means they cannot both be Trempers. The dad is more than likely a Bell albino like others have said. That means the baby is het for both Bell and Tremper albino and should not be bred. You also should never breed those two geckos together again.

 

[Phoenix1115]

Out of curiosity, the dbl hets are just bad to have because they can't ever both be expressed? Or is there some other reason?

 

[SC Geckos]

Out of curiosity, the dbl hets are just bad to have because they can't ever both be expressed? Or is there some other reason?

Double hets in general are not bad. They become bad when they are double het for two different Albino strains. This is a prime example on why so many breeders harp on people about knowing the genetics of any animal you intend to breed. If you don't know it's genetics...... don't breed it.
The genetic waters are muddy enough as it is and things like combining different strains of albino (and different strains of snows IMO) just confuse things even more.