whats the difference? hybinos, hyglows and sunglows

[robin]

Well, I guess since you cannot really see the difference from hybino and sunglow at this point why waste the time with 2 names, lol.
Kelli is the best,
Alberto

exactly

 

[ByRandom]

Well, I guess since you cannot really see the difference from hybino and sunglow at this point why waste the time with 2 names, lol.
Kelli is the best,
Alberto

Because, you can't standardize anything in Leopard Geckos... :wall:

 

[robin]

Robin, I think as far as Bells and RW`s we are looking at a matter of preference. Some people like the term Hybino, or have bought "hybino" from someone else, others like Sunglow, and/or have bought them as "Sunglows".

yes BUT kelli named them hybinos. why call them a sunglow? since she created both hypo and tangerine hypos, aka hybinos and no one since then has done anything different or better why change a name that has already been named? to be different? to sell more babies?

 

[Gazz]

ok but what about bells and rainwaters?

kelli produced the first hypo bell hypos and hypo tang bells.

I suppose she has the right to branded them Kelli-bell-hybino's then :main_thumbsup: :main_laugh: :main_laugh: .

 

[robin]

I suppose she has the right to branded them Kelli-bell-hybino's then :main_thumbsup: :main_laugh: :main_laugh: .

you are really funny :main_rolleyes:

 

[MHGeckos]

In my opinion the Hybinos are the same as Sunglows. I've heard that Ray Hine called his line HYPO ALBINO. Then TUG called their line SUNGLOWS. I think it's only the matter of bloodline. Alberto said about HYGLO- AM line

 

[Gazz]

I think it more down to there heritage if you know where your leo came from dosen't really matter as all the lines are good if you get your (hypo-albino) from hines you have a hybino regardless of it being a tremper,bell,rain water.If you get your (albino-hypo) from TUG regardless of it being a tremper,bell,rain water.If you get your (albino-hypo) from A&M regardless of it being a tremper,bell,rain water.But if your USA based you are more likely to use to term Sunglows or Hyglows for a albino hypo as USA is where these breeder are based.And if your UK or European your more likely to use the term hybino as UK is where the breeder of this strain is based.

Same as tug snows and abey's snows both line breed snows so pretty much the same just differant sources.

 

[eyelids]

Wait until I make my 'Moonglows'! LOL! It's going slower than I'd hoped...

Moonglow = Mack Snow Pastel Ghost Bell Albino

As far as Hybino vs. Sunglow, I don't care one way or the other... I think knowing whether they're linebred or dominant is what's important...

 

[giantkeeper]

I think knowing whether they're linebred or dominant is what's important...

and of course the strain of albino....

 

[A&M Gecko]

As far as Hybino vs. Sunglow, I don't care one way or the other... I think knowing whether they're linebred or dominant is what's important...

I also am of this opinion, you want to know absolutely if your animal has hypo genes or not, and this is why, no matter how close they look hyglo cannot be hybino or sunglow at any time.
This only my opinion.

and of course the strain of albino....

LOL, no comment.
Alberto

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

The difference is who's selling them and named them. Essentially, they are ALL the same morph with each breeder adding their own combination of hypos and albinos.

Here is a little history:

Ray Hine, who developed the SHCT (Super-hypo Carrot tail) began crossing them with very orange Tremper albinos. The result was the HYBINO. HY=hypo, BINO=albino. There can be hybinos in all 3 strains of albino... the term simply means it's a hypo-albino.

Craig Stewart from Urban Gecko started crossing his line of SHTCTB's with orange Tremper albinos, and started calling his hybinos SUNGLOWS. Essentially, they are the same as any other hybino except they were created with TUG tangerines.

Alberto from A&M had his own unique SHTCT's and crossed them with his own unique line of orange Tremper albinos. The result he called HYGLO's.

Kelli from HISS developed the hypo-tangerine Bell albino by crossing her own line of SHTCTB's with orange Bell albinos. The result was Bell hybinos.

So, all three... HYBINO, SUNGLOW, and HYGLO, are HYpo-alBINOs.

 

[A&M Gecko]

Alberto from A&M had his own unique SHTCT's and crossed them with his own unique line of orange Tremper albinos. The result he called HYGLO's.

Sorry Marcia, I have to repeat, there is no hypo in my hyglos. Those are tangerine albino. If you breed them to normals you get no hypos.
This is what I stated on my website:
The Hyglo is a name coined here at A&M Gecko for a super tangerine albino with at least 90% of the body covered with a tangerine color. This is a selectively bred morph that we have been working on with tangerine banded, jungle, striped and reverse striped albinos for many years to obtain the final result.
I have to disagree with you this time,
Alberto

 

[Gazz]

Sorry Marcia, I have to repeat, there is no hypo in my hyglos. Those are tangerine albino. If you breed them to normals you get no hypos.

Alberto

Sorry but are you sure about that ?? in the link if the top 6 deffantly aren't (hypo tangerine + albino) i don't know what is ??.Even the bottom 6 look (hypo tangeine + albino) IMO just a mix of stripe strains & jungles.After all hypo only mean high reduction of spots.

Can you posted some mixed pictures of non albino hyglow offsping ??.

http://www.amgecko.com/breeders_hyglos.html

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Sorry, Alberto! I stand corrected... :main_lipsrsealed:

I also forgot to add to my previous post that Ron Tremper's version of the "hybino' is called a Super-tangerine Albino.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

Excuse me Gazz! Just who the He!! are you to question Alberto about his line of animals???? :main_angry:

He has stated that his animals are selectively bred and DO NOT contain any co dominate hypo lines.

He in my opinion needs to prove nothing to you.:main_rolleyes:

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Excuse me Gazz! Just who the He!! are you to question Alberto about his line of animals????

He has stated that his animals are selectively bred and DO NOT contain any co dominate hypo lines.

He in my opinion needs to prove nothing to you.

I agree.

 

[Gazz]

Excuse me Gazz! Just who the He!! are you to question Alberto about his line of animals???? :main_angry:

He has stated that his animals are selectively bred and DO NOT contain any co dominate hypo lines.

He in my opinion needs to prove nothing to you.:main_rolleyes:

Just asking a question :main_thumbsup: You never question Trempers leo's there only PEOPLE Sorry but i find it hard to beleave that them top 6 leo deffantly have no hypo tangerine blood that's all.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

There is a difference between selectively breeding for reduced patterning and having a genetic trait that causes reduced patterning.

Also as far as I can recall, I have never on a public forum called out Ron Tremper.

 

[Gazz]

I also forgot to add to my previous post that Ron Tremper's version of the "hybino' is called a Super-tangerine Albino.

Tremper's super-tangerine albino's-AKA-tanglo's are (albino + tangerine) NOT (albino + hypo tangerine) so they are not albino hypo's of any type.

Tanglo's are the albino version of of the standed tangerine.
http://www.homegrowngekko.com/forsale/big/thtaf1.JPG

 

[preacherman]

yes BUT kelli named them hybinos. why call them a sunglow? since she created both hypo and tangerine hypos, aka hybinos and no one since then has done anything different or better why change a name that has already been named? to be different? to sell more babies?

I refer to my Bells as "Sunglows" instead of "Hybinos" simply because I originally got them from Garrick, and he calls them "Sunglows". He chose to call them "Sunglows" not because he was trying to come up with a catchy new name, but because in the reptile industry in general the term "Sunglow" is a very common name for hypo albinos.