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Anthony Neubauer
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I was wondering what albino strain most people are working with these days.Please vote and them say why.Thanks!
Which albino strain do you work with more?
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mindgamer8907
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We started working with the Tremper strain only because I really love APTORs. I'm not a fan of the red eye of the RAPTOR, but the color in those genes drew me to them anyway.
Then we started working with bells, only because of the lavender that we see in a lot of our bell animals.
Recently got our hands on a Rainwater Patternless, but we're not sure if we'll get into breeding that strain yet. They're gorgeous, but we've got too many projects going at the moment.
Then we started working with bells, only because of the lavender that we see in a lot of our bell animals.
Recently got our hands on a Rainwater Patternless, but we're not sure if we'll get into breeding that strain yet. They're gorgeous, but we've got too many projects going at the moment.
Jordan
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unfortunately i only posess trempers and bells atm, but hoping to get some rainwaters sometime soon 
yellermelon
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It's a rainwater thang ya digg
Enigmatic_Reptiles
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I sold all my Trempers and Bells this past season and am only working with RW this year. Its all Chris' and Bryan's fault for always showing off nice RW and FW crossings. Have some Typhoon projects in the works.
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Anthony Neubauer
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I just recieved an LVPA as a freebie,and I definately think I'm gonna start working with them.I would definately be intrested in a typhoon pair when you have some!Does this mean no more RAPTOrs from you?
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My first albino gecko was from P**** so it was a Tremper and since I"m limited in space, all my albinos have had to be Trempers. I don't mind. I actually don't like Bells that much.
Aliza
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I breed Bells the most, followed by Tremper. Personally, I like high contrast Trempers the best. In 2011, I'll have a Red Stripe Bell project going. My Rainwaters aren't prolific at all. Not a single egg this year. I'm suspecting I have a "cold female" (at least, she's very aggressive), so I'm getting my breeder a concubine next year. She must have a stripe!
Chrissy
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I work with Bells in most of my projects. I believe that as far as the natural coloration in general is better then the other 2. I keep some small projects in Trempers only to refine things others are over looking. I just got a pair of Rainwaters not long ago due to alot of people aren't doing the Raining Redstripe justice and I believe they can be better then what's out there.
TokayKeeper
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Rainwaters....but have worked with Trempers and owned 1 Bell, which I recently traded for a RWPA female.
Rainwaters were the first I saw and I saw Max, Tim Rainwater's original male at the now defunct New Mexico Reptile Expo in Oct 1998. Back then you had pink and yellow (Rainwater) and well, fill in the blanks of my signature below. The Tremper albino was my first to own though, paying $1K for a female back in July 1999 (see attached invoice!).
I've never had a Rainwater brown on me. But that's starting controversy. :main_rolleyes:
1st pic: My first Tremper albino. PHoto taken Sept 1999.
2nd pic: My 2nd Tremper albino, a replacement for the first after posting photos on kingsnake.com. The bottom gecko is the same top gecko a few months later.
3rd pic: Replacement female pictured with a male from Albey Scholl. Albey laughed at me because I purchased the darkest, ugliest Tremper male he had (all I could afford at the time too).
4th: Ron's invoice of my first albino
5th: my male Rainwater vs Replacement Tremper, photo from 2002 or 2003 I think.
6th: A female Rainwater from Kelli Hammack from around 2002.
It's just a matter of personal opinion and taste. Back in the very early albino days there were rumors that the Tremper's browned up as shown. My experience with the Tremper strain left a bitter taste in my mouth after being reassured over the phone that my replacement wouldn't brown up. Oddly, I love the looks of the Bell strain and I'm not much a fan of the dark pigmented albinos.
I almost had a bitter taste in my mouth again in 2002 after paying $1500 for a pair of het Rainwater albinos in 2001. I raised up the pair, but never bred the male. I paired the female with the below photoed Rainwater male (the lighter gecko in the 5th photo). I got 16 eggs that season and the last egg to hatch was an albino. To connect the dots, the other 15 offpsring were all normals (hets). A lot of people were supposedly ripped off in this same fashion. Personally, I just think the odds weren 't there. An albino to het cross should have produced a 50/50 mix, but instead I got statistics of a dihybrid cross...1 in 16. LOL
I'll post up another reply with recent shots of my Rainwaters to compliment the this post.
Rainwaters were the first I saw and I saw Max, Tim Rainwater's original male at the now defunct New Mexico Reptile Expo in Oct 1998. Back then you had pink and yellow (Rainwater) and well, fill in the blanks of my signature below. The Tremper albino was my first to own though, paying $1K for a female back in July 1999 (see attached invoice!).
I've never had a Rainwater brown on me. But that's starting controversy. :main_rolleyes:
1st pic: My first Tremper albino. PHoto taken Sept 1999.
2nd pic: My 2nd Tremper albino, a replacement for the first after posting photos on kingsnake.com. The bottom gecko is the same top gecko a few months later.
3rd pic: Replacement female pictured with a male from Albey Scholl. Albey laughed at me because I purchased the darkest, ugliest Tremper male he had (all I could afford at the time too).
4th: Ron's invoice of my first albino
5th: my male Rainwater vs Replacement Tremper, photo from 2002 or 2003 I think.
6th: A female Rainwater from Kelli Hammack from around 2002.
It's just a matter of personal opinion and taste. Back in the very early albino days there were rumors that the Tremper's browned up as shown. My experience with the Tremper strain left a bitter taste in my mouth after being reassured over the phone that my replacement wouldn't brown up. Oddly, I love the looks of the Bell strain and I'm not much a fan of the dark pigmented albinos.
I almost had a bitter taste in my mouth again in 2002 after paying $1500 for a pair of het Rainwater albinos in 2001. I raised up the pair, but never bred the male. I paired the female with the below photoed Rainwater male (the lighter gecko in the 5th photo). I got 16 eggs that season and the last egg to hatch was an albino. To connect the dots, the other 15 offpsring were all normals (hets). A lot of people were supposedly ripped off in this same fashion. Personally, I just think the odds weren 't there. An albino to het cross should have produced a 50/50 mix, but instead I got statistics of a dihybrid cross...1 in 16. LOL
I'll post up another reply with recent shots of my Rainwaters to compliment the this post.
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TokayKeeper
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The continuation...
Photos were taken yesterday. Photos taken with a Nikon D300 with a Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 micro (macro lens), coupled with an SB-800 and SB-600 (flashes). Geckos were photoed in a lightbox. Coloration accuracy was set using a WhiBal Certified Neutral Gray Card for White Balance Background is teal poster board from Hobby Lobby.
The geckos:
1st pic: Male "Normal" Rainwater purchased from Kevin Hanley in 2001. Same male in the 5th photo in my post above
2nd pic: Female "normal" Rainwater albino purchased from Kelli Hammack in 2002. Same sub-adult female in pic 6 above.
3rd & 4th pics: Raining Redstripes/Firewaters purchased from Dan "the fireman" earlier this year. They are HG 918 and 917, in that order.
5th pic: Rainwater PA ourchased from R2 Reptiles, who purchased her from Garrick DeMeyer (CrestedGecko.com).
These geckos are just some of the reason why I like the Rainwater strain over the other 2. I definitely have to give my hat off to Kelli for working the Bell line so well and producing killer Bells. One day I'll diverse to that strain.
Photos were taken yesterday. Photos taken with a Nikon D300 with a Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 micro (macro lens), coupled with an SB-800 and SB-600 (flashes). Geckos were photoed in a lightbox. Coloration accuracy was set using a WhiBal Certified Neutral Gray Card for White Balance Background is teal poster board from Hobby Lobby.
The geckos:
1st pic: Male "Normal" Rainwater purchased from Kevin Hanley in 2001. Same male in the 5th photo in my post above
2nd pic: Female "normal" Rainwater albino purchased from Kelli Hammack in 2002. Same sub-adult female in pic 6 above.
3rd & 4th pics: Raining Redstripes/Firewaters purchased from Dan "the fireman" earlier this year. They are HG 918 and 917, in that order.
5th pic: Rainwater PA ourchased from R2 Reptiles, who purchased her from Garrick DeMeyer (CrestedGecko.com).
These geckos are just some of the reason why I like the Rainwater strain over the other 2. I definitely have to give my hat off to Kelli for working the Bell line so well and producing killer Bells. One day I'll diverse to that strain.
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whin
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in our country, we have lot of tremper lines here, this year most of us are working on bells and just this dec we imported firewater so now im working for these three albino strains, but the most im really get more interest was the Rainwater line.
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justindh1
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I am currently working with both Bells and Trempers albinos this year. Bells are my favorite to work with just because the projects I have going with them have more potential at the moment. I like working with a variety anyways so I could never limit myself to just one strain.
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