Wild Caught Pickup...Pasadena!

chazthaking2

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This is my wild caught Macularius macularius from Steve Sykes.

I'm thinking on what to breed her to.

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Tony C

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My suggestion would be another wild caught or known pure CB E.m.macularius. There are no shortage of morphs available, but pure subspecies seem to be rather uncommon.
 
Riyo

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Huh. I thought it was illegal to import wild caught E.m. Macularius? Is she an F1 or a true wild caught? I'm confused, I must be missing something!

Either way, she's nice!!
 
Enigmatic_Reptiles

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I was there while Steve explained it so here is my best (going off of memory). It is illegal to have f1 wild caught imported. However if 2 f1's are bred (where it is legal) and then the babies are a resident to the country in which they were produced for a minimum of 4 months, then they can be sold and imported anywhere. Steve said he got them from 2 wc, and then has been breeding them himself...only just now beginning to sell them. So yes it is illegal for wc to be imported...but there is a way to beat the system if you know someone who will breed them and ship them to you from somewhere else. (I hope thats completely accurate :main_rolleyes:)...so this would make this gecko WC bloodline not true WC.
 
Tony C

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chazthaking2 said:
What are you getting at?
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Pure subspecies are not commonly available, and I think it would be beneficial to establish viable captive populations while we have the chance. These animals are valuable not only for their own sake, but also as genetic management tools for morph breeders because they are clean animals for outcrossing and potentially carry genes that we have not yet seen expressed in the animals currently being bred. I'm not saying you should never breed her with your morphs, but before you do try to find a pure male E.m.m. and produce a few generations of pure animals. There are no guarantees that wild caught geckos will be available in the future, so it's in our best interest to preserve what we do have.
 
chazthaking2

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Tony C said:
Pure subspecies are not commonly available, and I think it would be beneficial to establish viable captive populations while we have the chance. These animals are valuable not only for their own sake, but also as genetic management tools for morph breeders because they are clean animals for outcrossing and potentially carry genes that we have not yet seen expressed in the animals currently being bred. I'm not saying you should never breed her with your morphs, but before you do try to find a pure male E.m.m. and produce a few generations of pure animals. There are no guarantees that wild caught geckos will be available in the future, so it's in our best interest to preserve what we do have.
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Thank you and promise to do that! I have one in mind
 
robin

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Tony C said:
Pure subspecies are not commonly available, and I think it would be beneficial to establish viable captive populations while we have the chance. These animals are valuable not only for their own sake, but also as genetic management tools for morph breeders because they are clean animals for outcrossing and potentially carry genes that we have not yet seen expressed in the animals currently being bred. I'm not saying you should never breed her with your morphs, but before you do try to find a pure male E.m.m. and produce a few generations of pure animals. There are no guarantees that wild caught geckos will be available in the future, so it's in our best interest to preserve what we do have.
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agreed!
 
thestack510

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Tony C said:
Pure subspecies are not commonly available, and I think it would be beneficial to establish viable captive populations while we have the chance. These animals are valuable not only for their own sake, but also as genetic management tools for morph breeders because they are clean animals for outcrossing and potentially carry genes that we have not yet seen expressed in the animals currently being bred. I'm not saying you should never breed her with your morphs, but before you do try to find a pure male E.m.m. and produce a few generations of pure animals. There are no guarantees that wild caught geckos will be available in the future, so it's in our best interest to preserve what we do have.
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