AFT x Leo eggs fertile?

[thegeckoguy]

sorry. Ive been busy lately and havent had much time to email him. Ill shoot him a message tonight and try to get the pics.

 

[Baoh]

Leopard geckos have 38 chromosomes (19 pairs)

I have not been able to find what the # of chromosomes an AFT has of yet, but I remember reading somewhere that they have a different # of chromosomes, however it was not stated the # each had.

But… the person who said that could have been a 40 year old man sitting, naked, in his mamma’s basement, eating nachos. You never really know on the internet, but I will try and look up the # of chromosome that AFTs possess.

Thank you. Please update again if you find the AFT number.

 

[goReptiles]

I've had leopard gecko eggs look fertile to the last minute and never hatch, so I wouldn't count that the eggs will or won't hatch just because they look fertile. Either way it's never been done before, and I hope it's never done in the future. There's no need to do it.

 

[Tanner505Geckos]

i agree with Whitney there is no need to do it

 

[shanerules]

im the guy

to everybody wondering im the one producing cross breeds. you all may think its not possible or cruel. I DONT! I just want to see if it can be done. if it can i would ask my close friend who is a herp vet for help on it. It irritates me for people to shun new things. it wont have a life of pain :main_angry: it would just be like a leo or AFT hatchling-adult. I've researched the genetics and such. i have a friend who bred a corn snake with a northern water snake. babies survived (he sold them a year later) and as of my knowledge they still are alive!

IM JUST TRYING SOMETHING OUT!

 

[shanerules]

hey mister

So where are the pictures ?

dont any of you wont proof of this like pictures of a candleing of one of the eggs ?

im trying to get them up! Hold your horses! i dont got a camera right now!

 

[shanerules]

dad and mom

so try both like-

M/leo x F/AFT

or
F/leo x M/AFT

I wonder if that would make a difference? I suppose it would be worth a try.

its

F leo
M AFT

 

[gecko geek]

cool cant wait for pics

 

[boutiquegecko]

I don't think it's a matter of people not wanting to try new things. In general, people as a whole are curiouse and like to poke thier noses into things that wouldn't occur naturally. There was a tiger and lion that reproduced w/o human interference, causing some researchers to do the cross. It's a wicked looking animal, but really, would it have occured naturally some day?

 

[Crazygecko]

So someone made a Liger? i think they watch to much Napoleon Dynamite.

 

[Baoh]

I am pleased you are trying, Shane.

 

[Gecko]

AFT's and Leopard Geckos are pretty far apart probably evolutionarly speaking. Just because they look similiar doesn't mean much.

Snake and turtle hybrids probably arn't great for comparisions either. Snakes have a simplified body plan and turtles probably have a fairly rigid set of instructions for anatomy if I had to guess. Hence, intergeneric crosses, etc.

 

[Baoh]

Not really far apart, relatively.

And chelonians can be highly diversified, depending upon the species discussed.

 

[Gregg M]

Snakes have a simplified body plan and turtles probably have a fairly rigid set of instructions for anatomy if I had to guess. Hence, intergeneric crosses, etc.

Actually snakes are far more evolved than geckos. Lung structure, digestive tract structure, skull structure, heat pits and heat cells on the lips, plus the jacobsons organ, venom and its highly evolved delivery system (this is just scratching the surface) would all suggest that snakes are way more complex than a gecko of any species... There is nothing simple about a snakes "body plan" and there are vast differences between species.

I am not big on turtles but I am willing to bet that there are differences in internal body structure between species as well...

 

[Stevie]

Actually snakes are far more evolved than geckos. Lung structure, digestive tract structure, skull structure, heat pits and heat cells on the lips, plus the jacobsons organ, venom and its highly evolved delivery system (this is just scratching the surface) would all suggest that snakes are way more complex than a gecko of any species... There is nothing simple about a snakes "body plan" and there are vast differences between species.

The presence of other body structures is not an indication of a 'higher complexity' in my opinion, but more that snakes are adapted to other environmental en behavioural conditions as lizards. Snakes however are indeed 'more evolved' than most lizards, but for different reasons that you mention. First, snakes used to have legs (in some species these extremities are rudimentary present). Besides that, snakes evolved from a bilateral 'arrangement' to an unilateral (not entirely though) body plan. In this case the 'simpleness' of the snakes body plan and the way it originated is a sign that is more evolved and not the presence of different body structures.

Greets,

Stevie

 

[Gregg M]

The presence of other body structures is not an indication of a 'higher complexity' in my opinion, but more that snakes are adapted to other environmental en behavioural conditions as lizards. Snakes however are indeed 'more evolved' than most lizards, but for different reasons that you mention. First, snakes used to have legs (in some species these extremities are rudimentary present). Besides that, snakes evolved from a bilateral 'arrangement' to an unilateral (not entirely though) body plan. In this case the 'simpleness' of the snakes body plan and the way it originated is a sign that is more evolved and not the presence of different body structures.

Greets,

Stevie

Maybe complex was not the right term to use. Good post. It adds to what I said originally.