Has is been proven that blizzard eclipse is NOT or IS the same as Tremper eclipse ??

[Gazz]

If they are the same would it be;
blizzard eclipse X RAPTOR = some eclipse offspring.As i've read that tremper eclipse is recessive but not sure on the genetics of the blizzard eclipse.

 

[robin]

as far as i know the genetics on black eyed blizzards are unknown. i refer to them as black eyed blizzards so not to be confused with trempers proven genetic eclipses/snakeyes whatever

 

[eyelids]

It's a little hard to follow, but according to this they are compatible.

EDIT: I will say on my part that it's definitely not recessive. Last year I hatched a "Snake Eye" Mack Snow from a "Snake Eye" Blizzard.

 

[robin]

It's a little hard to follow, but according to this they are compatible.

EDIT: I will say on my part that it's definitely not recessive. Last year I hatched a "Snake Eye" Mack Snow from a "Snake Eye" Blizzard.

i think that dude is fulla doody

 

[okapi]

:main_huh: well, im sure at least his colon is :main_rolleyes: :main_laugh:

 

[SaSobek]

well here is my input on that one. i have the blazzing blizzards with the weird eyes i breed them to a het raptor that has been proven to give Raptors. i have hatched out over 14 babies and the eyes are all normal. im not saying its not possable. it just hasnt poped out in mine yet. so i am thinking that they are not the same gene but maybe you could get a half black half red eye if they are not the same, now that would look awsome.

 

[SaSobek]

i also breed blazzing blizzard with the eyes to blazzing blizzard with the eyes. that cross the babies should be hatching out in the next couple weeks. and we will see what blazzing weird eyes X blazzzing weird eyes gives us.

 

[trizzypballr]

do you happen to have any 'het black eye blizzard genes' to breed to eachother to see if the black eyed blizzard is the same, just a different strain like albinos? Id check it out but I dont even have any black eyed blizzards yet, so id be 2 years out of the project, unless someone wants to donate to the cause, i have the room

 

[eyelids]

I have eggs due any day from my "Snake Eye" Blizzard which was breed to her son. Like I said previously, one of her babies from last year has Snake Eyes and I know the father wasn't carrying the gene so it can't be recessive.

 

[Gazz]

I have a full eclipse blizzard bred by my self the parent where both normal eyed blizzards but from a reptile shop so know nothing of there genetic history.I've mated eclipse blizzard-(female) to my mack pastel het albino poss het blizzard-(male).So if i get eclipse strate off is what ? fair to say dominant ? of sum sort ?.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

You cannot compare Blazing Blizzard eyes to Blizzard eyes because the Blazings have the albino influence. I have been working with Blizzards for many years, and have yet to figure out how the eclipse eye genetics work in this morph. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I have a 'hunch' that the eclipse eye in the Blizzard morph may be the 'super' form... in which case it is dominant or at least co-dominant. Other 'eclipse' eye traits (albino) are acting more like recessive.

Time will tell...

 

[Gazz]

You cannot compare Blazing Blizzard eyes to Blizzard eyes because the Blazings have the albino influence. I have been working with Blizzards for many years, and have yet to figure out how the eclipse eye genetics work in this morph. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I have a 'hunch' that the eclipse eye in the Blizzard morph may be the 'super' form... in which case it is dominant or at least co-dominant. Other 'eclipse' eye traits (albino) are acting more like recessive.

Time will tell...

???? So what your saying is ???.
Eclipse blizzard X blizard = about 50%Eclipse blizzad 50% blizzard ???.
Albino eclipse blizzard X blizzard = het eclipse blizzard ??
Albino eclipse blizzard X Albino eclipse blizzard = 100% Albino eclipse blizzard ???.
I don't think that the albino gene will play any part in the result of eclipse it's just eclipse+albino they are two differant gene one being dominant or recssive(eclipse) what ever it may be ?? the other recessive(albino).

If it's dominant will be ??.
Albino eclipse blizzard X Albino blizzard = say 50%albino eclipse blizzard 50%albino blizzard.And would be just the same result for the NON albino eclipse blizzard so 50%Eclipse blizzard 50%blizzard.

And if recssive which i think it is not but still not sure ?????.
Albino eclipse blizzard X Albino blizzard = 100% Albino blizzard het eclipse.And just the same result for thr NON albino eclipse blizzard so blizzard het eclipse.

I'm still not ruling recssive out coz dominant's type as of yet don't have hets for ?? but I've had two young eclipse types one being a eclipse blizzard both parent had 100% normal eyes they was both blizzard.The other being a partial eclipse super hypo tangerine both parents had 100% normal eyes they was both super hypo tangerine CT's with NO RAPTOR history as far as i know.Very confusing gene as 420geckos say's he hatch a partial eclipse mack snow strate off useing a partial eclipse blizzard the chance of his mack being het eclipse is slim i'd say but dominant's don't do hets ?? i brought het into it coz of my eclipse all of my adult that gave me my eclipse type babys came from the blizzard(100% normal eyes) came from the same place so related possible but the super hypo tangerine CT's(100% normal eyes) came from differant places and the odds of the super hypo tangeine CT's being het i'd say is massive.But to be dominant dose't have to be visual ? so how can two normal eyes throw out eclipse if dominat don't have hets ??.

I've proberly lost you a long way back :help: just try and find some bread crumbs :main_robin: .

 

[tangerineman]

I found some bread crumbs...so here I am....

I started to read this, and it was very interesting....until it all kind of became like that teacher in the Charlie Brown cartoon...lofl

I still think it's interesting, just requires some espresso to ponder any longer...

I wanted to say thanks for firing up the ole synapses, though!

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Pat and I are doing RAPTOR (perfect solid eyes) x "Eclipse" Blizzard to determine if Eclipse seen in RAPTOR is the same as "Eclipse" seen in Blizzard. I however do not think it is, but at least we'll have a final yes or no on that matter.

 

[LeopardLunatic]

I have a bannana blizzard with a snake eye.

 

[KelliH]

The solid and/or snake eyed and/or partially solid eyes have been around in Blizzards since they were first available in 99. I don't think it is the same genetically as the solid eyed Raptor/Eclipse.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

???? So what your saying is ???.

LOL... what I am saying is, that the albino 'eclipse' and the blizzard 'eclipse' are two completely different genetic mutations. So, if a Blazing Blizzard has 'eclipse' eyes, it may be influenced by the albino OR the blizzard... I don't think it is a factor of both. (yet!)

 

[Lottiz]

LOL... what I am saying is, that the albino 'eclipse' and the blizzard 'eclipse' are two completely different genetic mutations. So, if a Blazing Blizzard has 'eclipse' eyes, it may be influenced by the albino OR the blizzard... I don't think it is a factor of both. (yet!)

A got a blizzard with one jet balck eye and one snake eye, and i put hen with a snake eye blazing blizzard...so, I wont get any snake eyes or black eyes from them?? It's better to put a normal eyed blizzard with him?

/L

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

A got a blizzard with one jet balck eye and one snake eye, and i put hen with a snake eye blazing blizzard...so, I wont get any snake eyes or black eyes from them?? It's better to put a normal eyed blizzard with him?

It hasn't been proven that the eye traits between the blizzard and the albino are the same. Since a Blazing Blizzard is an albino/blizzard, the snake eye trait could be due to the blizzard genetics, or it could be due to the albino genetics. If you cross a snake-eyed blazing blizzard with an eclipse/snake eyed blizzard and got eclipse or snake eyed offspring, you would only be proving out the blizzard eye trait.

 

[Lottiz]

Ok...interesting. I know all this about albinos=blazing, and recessive genes, but I thought blizzard eclipse was the same gene anyway...
I saw them mate this evening

/L