NEW Enigma Morph ( THE X FACTOR)

[your gecko guy]

I dont want any more Than what I have already got from this thread I spend 30 to 40 hours a week in my gecko room and have spent thousands and thousands on my geckos and have read books and talked to other breeders about the enigma stuff it is a dom gene ? I breed it to a female the offspring should be enigma ? that is what nothing ? The enigma gene is still real new we wont know for at least a few more what it can do or its reason or might not ever find out ? but one thing is for sure go look at 50 bold stripes there pattern is more solid not broken up in this manner or the show this way but it is what it is .



the parents are not stripe or het for it ?

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we are being mean or anything like that. The eye trait doesn't appear to be Enigmaish.

Just because the gene is a dominant trait doesn't mean every gecko produced by the Enigma X anything is all going to be Enigma. There is a higher chance that you will produce an enigma but you're not given a 100% hatching rate.

Maybe i'm either confused on what you were getting at about stating its a dom trait. But i also think that you may be a little confused on the genetics.

 

[supperl]

If you spend 40h+ a week on your geckos and thousands of USD and your talking to breeders all th time about Enigmas you should not only now that the Morph is Dominant but also that only 50% of the babies will be ENigmas. Thats why we have the Enigma siblings. You need to do your homework.
Sry to say and don´t get us wrong like "You will never have a new morph haha how could you and we won´t except it" but thats no Enigma. But you can proof us wrong when breeding that Bold Stripe and getting more Enigmas. So I would say we talk again in a year.

 

[your gecko guy]

If you have read the my posts you will se that i have out breed her to other males and have not got the same result
and these 3 one did not make it so these two are 2 out of 10 like this only 2 all last season and one this year she has had 3 clutches this year so ya I have done home work. but If you do not care to read the post that I have made then dont reply with negtive info this is not what these forums are for they are for gecko people to conversate and such not be bulled by people thx

and dude kick the avatar pic

 

[your gecko guy]

Please no more posts thx

 

[supperl]

so ya I have done home work. but If you do not care to read the post that I have made then dont reply with negtive info this is not what these forums are for they are for gecko people to conversate and such not be bulled by people thx

and dude kick the avatar pic

I breed it to a female the offspring should be enigma ?

Sure you did your homework you don´t even know simple genetic rules for the morph your breeding.

Your right Forums not to bully ppl but if someone comes telling he has something new not able to proof it as new, cause it looks same as every other BS AND not knowing an Enigma won´t produce 100% Enigma offsprings and its the morph we are talking about, you can´t hope ppl will believe your story and not telling their opinion.

Okay no more posts it´s easier but why delet the thread? You can wait for other ppl's opinion I mean it can´t be if you realy have somethign new, that no one sees it like Nigel an me and some others haven`t.

 

[crotaphytidae]

I to don't think it's an enigma, Sorry I have to agree with the others. It's a very nice Bold Stripe but no enigma. Don't get defensive because people are stating their opinion that it's not an enigma, they have all complimented you on the nice hatchling but just don't think it's an enigma and they should know they've hatched hundreds between them. Just take it as you will but I hope that it turns out as something learned and not just egos being bruised. Good luck with the animals and when you do hatch an enigma from that breeding I hope to see it as that would be killer. If you really want to see none albino enigma eyes I'd check out Steve Sykes available page.

 

[BalloonzForU]

Enigma x Anying (doesn't)= 100% Enigmas

If that was the case the price on them would have dropped much faster than they have.

I see no difference in the eye pic in question with this one I took, so tell me why it's an enimga and is that what I have then? I'll answer that for you. The only difference is my pic was taken way before the Enigmas even hit the market and she's not an Enimga.

No one is bullying you, only asking you to show proof and explain your claim that what you have is a bold stripe enigma. Bold stripes come in variations so you saying that it's different than others you have seen, holds no water.

Others have only expresed their opinion that what you are showing is not an Enimga and I have to agree with them.

Okay no more posts it´s easier but why delet the thread? You can wait for other ppl's opinion I mean it can´t be if you realy have somethign new, that no one sees it like Nigel an me and some others haven`t.

He only requested that particuar post be deleted not the thread, I did as he asked.

 

[snared99]

I would have to agree with the crowd here, there is no evidence of a new morph. Also im trying to figure out your xanthic?? where did she ocme from, she looks like a regular hypo?

 

[GekkoGalaksen]

Maybe I am out "sailing" here...but if the two first ones is the parents. It´s one banded Tang Enigma...the "Xantic" don´t look like a stripe, jungle or even aberrant.
I have never manage to hatch a bold stripe from parents like that.
But...well, I haven´t breed sooo many bold stripes eigther. But when I have mixed stripe or jungel with banded, the hatchlings become banded. A few have had a little aberrant pattern on the tail, but that is all.

My question is...is it the right parents to that hatchling???

 

[denver2890]

The female looks like it might be from a red stripe project. I have a red stripe that has lost some of its stripe coloring like that after breeding. It also produced hatchlings that look similar to this one.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

I'm seeing no evidence of the Enigma gene or Albinism in the hatchling eye images. :main_no: Sorry.

 

[R.E.F]

It isnt a enigma, there is no redish thing in the eye.

There do not come 100% enigmas when you breed enigma X anything, the will be 50% chances for a enigma and less for a combo.

 

[Mel&Keith]

Certainly not trying to highjack your thread, just thought these might help since we've hatched Bold Stripes and Bold Stripe Enigmas -

Bold Stripe (with a funky head pattern and nose spot, not from Enigma lines)

Bold Stripe Snow Bell Enigma

Very similar head patterns but one is an Enigma and one is not.

 

[R.E.F]

There you can see that your hachtlings is a bold stipe morph.

 

[nevinm]

theres no way thats an engma. sorry. it looks like a compleatly normal bold stripe to me. this has nothing to do with you claiming its a new morph combo but just the simple fact there is no evedince that is an enimga. breed that to a normal animal hatch out some normal enigmas and then we will see.

 

[Gregg M]

Here is my opinion... Even though I was unable to see the photos, an Enigma X Xanthic will produce (depending on the genetics of the enigma)normals and regular Enigmas... I do not think that an Enigmas/Xanthic cross is worthy of its own morph name... Besides, I am sure the cross has already been done by JMG a long time ago...

 

[jmlslayer]

Wheres the pic from the first page ????

 

[thestack510]

I didn't even know he was saying it was an Enigma. Where did the pictures go? I haven't breed anything into my Hyper Yellow Xanthics, but I'm almost sure that you would get High Yellow normals. I wonder who was hiding the Bold Stripe gene in that pair.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Wheres the pic from the first page ????

The images were deleted by a Moderator. :main_huh: Not sure why though...