Origin of the Enigma quite possible very much doutb it ?

robin

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okapi said:
This is your further notice :D You can start talking about them again :main_thumbsup:

I like the BSB posts, how often do people working on something totally new tell people about their theories and show ALOT of pictures? Usually not until the morph has hit the market and sales have started...

i can tell you that as far as all of the info out there and what had been collected by those breeding them. this is a totally new genetic morph. kelli, who is working with them, is not like ron tremper who hides the genetics (as well as other things) of his leos. if she knew what they were she would actually say so.


by the way don't use :robin: <--- it's my emote :main_yes:



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okapi said:
This is your further notice :D You can start talking about them again :main_thumbsup:

I like the BSB posts, how often do people working on something totally new tell people about their theories and show ALOT of pictures? Usually not until the morph has hit the market and sales have started...

I don't know how I missed this post...

I know I get a lot of negative feedback on this project because I assumed they'd produce Enigmas. I wish I would've kept that to myself until I proved it or not. These guys are definitely unique though and I have a good feeling something will pop up from them. I recently sold the only BSB from this project that I'll be releasing until I do BSB x BSB and I'm very excited to see what they produce. I'll leave it up to them to tell you guys what they're crossing the male with. ;) :main_lipsrsealed:
 

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OK Guys. Calm down LOL.

1. Enigmas are not related to the Mack Snows.
2. Those Calicos over on that European website look like they could be Enigmas.
3. There is no combination of morphs you can breed together to produce Enigmas. Kinda like there is no combination of morphs you can breed together to make a patternless. Get it? ;-)
4. All information I receive and all information that I learn about the Enigmas I share with the other people that own them, and/or on this website.
5. Mack Snow Ghosts are the same thing as Super Hypo Mack Snows in my opinion.

I think I covered everything but any more questions just ask. The Enigmas are a new morph and I am completely excited to be so lucky to work with them. There is still a lot I don't know about them, but as I produce more and do more crosses I will learn more, and share the information.
 
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Cory

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All I know is that I've been away from this site too long...lol... see what happens when marriage, cancer, babies then no babies and all that other stuff happens...

I just about dropped outta my chair Kelli when I saw the red headed enigma on your site, and finished the short trip to the floor when I looked at your available enigma page.... wow...

Look forward to hearing more about them!
 
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Double LY

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My mouth is shut and there will be no more open BSB discussion from me on the net until further notice.

Michael PLEASE don't stop talking - - ABOUT ANYTHING!!! You have a way of making genetics make sense to even to dummies like me :main_yes: Plus, your geckos are to die for!!!!!
 

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Double LY said:
Michael PLEASE don't stop talking - - ABOUT ANYTHING!!! You have a way of making genetics make sense to even to dummies like me :main_yes: Plus, your geckos are to die for!!!!!

Thanks for the compliments! Don't worry I definitely won't stop. I'm just not going to be putting BSB and Enigma in the same sentence. Well... maybe BSB x Enigma! ;)
 

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Gregg M said:
"Hes got a large fry and a shake, but I dont see a big mac"... Dude, what the hell are you even talking about??? My brain is scrambled??? LOL

What exactly would a Mack ghost be??? A mack snow ghost is a result of a Mack snow X ghost (name of a hypo line) pairing...
I am not sure how this is confusing you... Its pretty straight foward... Its like saying "I have super hypos and super hypo mack snows, but where the mack super hypos"...

If you want Enigmas, BUY THEM... You keep holding on to the idea that you are all of a sudden going to figure out its genetic make up and produce them yourself... It aint gonna happen... You are not going to get Enigmas from BSBs, ghost, or mack snow ghost or BSB X mack snow ghost... The only way to get Enigmas at this point is to buy one from Kelli.... So get the hammer and bust the piggy bank open... LOL


Gregg,
That was too funny! Glad to see you (as always) told it like it is. I was getting a little frustrated reading the "what if" and "could it be" theories myself..... Why must people hypothesize about Enigmas origins? They should just ask Kelli, read what she has written based on her findings, or simply buy one themselves and breed it to prove it. Sounds easy enough. Some poeple just don't get it. :D
 

RaiQuee

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I don't usually jump into the genetics issues all that much, as well I know -basic- genetics.

However, I do hardly come into the genetics forum because people like to pull things from space sometimes! Kelli stated it didn't originate from the mack line, it came from her bell breedings (if I remember correctly). I really don't think shes lying!!! :)
 

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