Weird Morph What Morph are these

[Alexakis]

Well it's between.

Blizzard HET Talbino,Eclipse/Poss-HET Balbino.

or

Blizzard enigma HET Talbino,Eclipse/Poss-HET Balbino.

Can you get any eye pictures up.

pics of the eyes from the first one? or from all 3 hatchlings


take a look at the avalable page from BlackVelvetLeopardgecko site
the first one looks like my on second picture
http://www.blackvelvets.dinstudio.se/empty_40.html

 

[Gazz]

pics of the eyes from the first one? or from all 3 hatchlings


take a look at the avalable page from BlackVelvetLeopardgecko site
the first one looks like my on second picture
http://www.blackvelvets.dinstudio.se/empty_40.html

Pictures of the babys.The two in your thred starter post #1.

 

[KelliH]

They are Patternless Enigmas.

 

[BSM]

i really doubt there patternless enigmas as i said on the other forum, the likely hood of the male db being het patternless is slim and then on top of that the female being het for patternless as well. Plus the odds of getting 3 in a row would be much more plausable on a 1/2 chance vs 1/4

I think there blizzard or blizzard enigmas that are yellow, the albino blizzard enigma that was sold to me is yellower then any regular albino blizzards i had before.

 

[ofek]

They are Patternless Enigmas.

With one of the parents being a visual Talbino eclipse blizzard it's unlikly is't HET Patternless.I'd say them babys are visual blizzards.So the other parent is a Enigma HET Balbino,Blizzard IMO.

Somtime blizzards do express some blotching like the patternless but on a far lesser scale.And on blizzards the blotching only follows the spine and is only a small amount.

I'd deffo say there Blizzards.Wheather there Blizzad enigmas ? is another question.

Blizzard baby expressing blotching.
http://reptilesplus.net/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/blizzard_leopard.97194819.JPG

I must agree with gazz on this one,
here's a pictuer of a baby blizzard I have:
View attachment 28166

 

[Taquiq]

I posted this back on geckosunlimited. I say it is either a Enigma Blizzard het Bell, Eclipse, Patternless or a Enigma Patternless het Blizzard, Bell, Eclipse. Considering that the parents are Diablo Blanco x Enigma het Bell, Blizzard, or Patternless.

 

[robin]

Not likly Blizzardpatternless are hyper rare.Proven ones i know of are just two.And that only by word of mouth and where are they now ?.The leo in the link is nothing more than a yellow blizzard.Hatchling yellow blizzard often express dorsal blotching.

i know of only one proven one and its not by word of mouth. ask kelli she had one. i would tend to agree that the gecko in that photo is just a yellow blizzard. just because a blizzard is yellow does not mean its a true banana blizzard.

now on to these gecko that started the thread. they are patternless, the second and i think the third (photos) one look possibly enigma.

 

[robin]

i really doubt there patternless enigmas as i said on the other forum, the likely hood of the male db being het patternless is slim and then on top of that the female being het for patternless as well. Plus the odds of getting 3 in a row would be much more plausable on a 1/2 chance vs 1/4

I think there blizzard or blizzard enigmas that are yellow, the albino blizzard enigma that was sold to me is yellower then any regular albino blizzards i had before.

the baby body patterning is obviously a patternless (murphey)

 

[Alexakis]

Pictures of the babys.The two in your thred starter post #1.

they are 3 geckos! The first two picture in my starterpost are one gecko!
The first picture is taken on his hatchday ( maybe a few days later ) and the second picture is taken when he was 2 months old! Look what he has turnd

i have make some picture of the eyes! for safetys sake i post the gecko and his eyes =)

sooooo

here is gecko Nr1

and his eyes the left one

the right one

 

[Alexakis]

they are 3 geckos! The first two picture in my starterpost are one gecko!
The first picture is taken on his hatchday ( maybe a few days later ) and the second picture is taken when he was 2 months old! Look what he has turnd

i have make some picture of the eyes! for safetys sake i post the gecko and his eyes =)

sooooo

here is gecko Nr1

and his eyes the left one

the right one

here are the eyes of the second gecko from my starter post

the eye

and at least the thrid one that i hatched last week

and the eye

sorry for the big pictures! I hope after this somebody can say more!


Did somebody have a opinion to this ?
http://www.blackvelvets.dinstudio.se/empty_40.html

the first gecko on this page are an Blizzard Enigma poss het Balbino
and this gecko looks like my second one i hatched?!

i really doubt there patternless enigmas as i said on the other forum, the likely hood of the male db being het patternless is slim and then on top of that the female being het for patternless as well. Plus the odds of getting 3 in a row would be much more plausable on a 1/2 chance vs 1/4

I think there blizzard or blizzard enigmas that are yellow, the albino blizzard enigma that was sold to me is yellower then any regular albino blizzards i had before.

Because of the yellow color, i daresay that the other two geckos turns like the first one! Or not ???

I must agree with gazz on this one,
here's a pictuer of a baby blizzard I have:
View attachment 28166

with wich opinion? That this are Blizzard HET Talbino,Eclipse/Poss-HET Balbino or Blizzard enigma HET Talbino,Eclipse/Poss-HET Balbino.

 

[ofek]

with wich opinion? That this are Blizzard HET Talbino,Eclipse/Poss-HET Balbino or Blizzard enigma HET Talbino,Eclipse/Poss-HET Balbino.

With the fact it's a Blizzard and not a M. patternless. If it's Enigma or not, by looking at the pics, Ican say that it looks like the 1st has one snake eye so, as far as i can say he's eclipsed. the second I can't tell for sure, the pic is too dark. the 3rd isn't enigma as far as I see.

 

[Alexakis]

With the fact it's a Blizzard and not a M. patternless. If it's Enigma or not we'll know only by looking at they're eyes, and for some reason I can't see the pics you uploaded.

ok thats bad, i have post some pics of the eyes! Maybe a problem with you browser? Because i dont have any problems to see the pictures ??? !!!

 

[ofek]

edited my post...

 

[Alexakis]

With the fact it's a Blizzard and not a M. patternless. If it's Enigma or not, by looking at the pics, Ican say that it looks like the 1st has one snake eye so, as far as i can say he's eclipsed. the second I can't tell for sure, the pic is too dark. the 3rd isn't enigma as far as I see.

Hmm i can try to make some better pics of the second one! But he has eyes so dark like on the pic! Maybe this chance als in few weeks???

 

[ofek]

what we're looking for is an orange hue, can you see that in any of them?

 

[KelliH]

They still look like Patternless Enigmas to me. I've hatched out more than 20 of them, and they look just like that when they hatch. No or very little body pattern and solid white tail. All of the Blizzard Enigmas I have hatched are very white as hatchlings, not yellow. Just my opinion though.

 

[ofek]

I can't argue with your experience, Kelli...
Why do you think they're Enigma? have you seen they're eyes? I can't see any orange in there...and as they are they do look very much like my yellow Blizz. as I posted.
I'd be happy to learn and understand why do you think they are Enigmas.

 

[KelliH]

Oh I have been wrong before and could easily be wrong now, it's just an opinion.
I'll try to take some snaps of some of my baby Patty Enigmas and then we can all compare. I've never hatched any really yellow Blizzards like that (my Blizzard groups always produced very crisp white babies, which was my goal!) so keep in mind I could be mistaken too.

 

[Alexakis]

ok yo you two think these are patternless Enigmas?
All 3 babies???
And why did the first one looks like a Blizzard babie? With the purple color ???

 

[ofek]

None of us is sure about any of them...Kelli thinks they're Enigma patternless andI think they're yellow Blizzards, but time will tell