tangerines vs. super hypos

[robin]

i would like to know what you guys think. tell me what you to be the difference between a hypo/super hypo and a tangerine

 

[gothra]

I thought tangerine is just like a high yellow/normal except the base color is more orangy. A hypo has reduced spots, and super hypo has only a few or no spots on the body.

 

[robin]

but some tangerine have no black spots

 

[JordanAng420]

I think hypo and super hypo have been used a lot more generally lately. Hypo is a term used to describe reduced spotting. Super hypo is generally 5 or less spots on the back. A "tangerine" gecko is a gecko who's body is more orange or red rather than yellow. Tangerine geckos can be normals with tangerine influence, hypo, super hypo...they can also be incorporated into morphs such as enigmas and sunglows.

 

[snakewrangler]

Tangerine should definitely be used to describe the orange color. I've been producing some super hypos with no body or head spots whatsoever, but I label them "Super Hypos" and not "Super Hypo Tangerines" due to the lack of orange pigment:

 

[robin]

ok now is a super hypo tangerine or a hypo tangerine the same as a tangerine?

also maia, have you seen super orange super hypo tangerines (which is not a true tangerine)?

 

[OhioGecko]

Hypo - reduced spotting
Super Hypo - no spotting
Tangerine - Orange in color

Hypo describes spotting or markings on the back, tangerine describes the coloring.

 

[robin]

name the morphs

 

[acpart]

I think people use terms for tangerine in a sloppy way along with other sloppy naming tendencies (like calling a gecko with body markings a RAPTOR even when the P stands for "patternless"). I find that many people, myself included sometimes (sorry), tend to have the tangerine automatically go along with the hypo or super hypo. I think it does to some extent --it's less usual to have a tangerine color with spots, though I've seen it. Since most of the tangs have significantly reduced spotting, all geckos with reduced spotting get called "tang" by some people. I also think that the background color looks different in the absence of spots, which could cause more people to think of them as tangs.

Aliza

 

[OhioGecko]

I would consider all those Tangerines of some sort, now the question is what other influences are there? They could have Emerine in them which you would then just call them Emerines or they might be a a unique line of Tangerines. For example Kelli produced the Electric Tangs and JMG produced the blood line.

 

[robin]

I would consider all those Tangerines of some sort, now the question is what other influences are there? They could have Emerine in them which you would then just call them Emerines or they might be a a unique line of Tangerines. For example Kelli produced the Electric Tangs and JMG produced the blood line.

ding ding ding now thad what is the difference between those tangs (regardless of line) and hypos and super hypos (ct and/or baldies)

 

[OhioGecko]

LOL, Robin!

Hypo - reduced spotting on the back
Super Hypo - no spotting on the back
Baldie - no spotting on the head
Carrot Tail - "generally" 30% or more orange coloring of the tail

 

[OhioGecko]

I would label the three you have pictured as "without knowing the genetics":

1: Jungle Tangerine
2: Hypo Tangerine
3: Hypo Tangerine (possibly Carrot Tail)

 

[robin]

I would label the three you have pictured as "without knowing the genetics":

1: Jungle Tangerine
2: Hypo Tangerine
3: Hypo Tangerine (possibly Carrot Tail)

right right right but what makes these guys tangerines and not hypos, super hypos or super hypo tangerines? is it something in the bloodline, in the looks? the color?

i am not trying to start anything just get people thinking and to know what to look for and see what people think constitutes (in this case) a tangerine.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Great thread Robin Very helpful information.

 

[OhioGecko]

right right right but what makes these guys tangerines and not hypos, super hypos or super hypo tangerines? is it something in the bloodline, in the looks? the color?

i am not trying to start anything just get people thinking and to know what to look for and see what people think constitutes (in this case) a tangerine.

Good thread Robin I believe the post below describes what you're asking.

Hypo - reduced spotting
Super Hypo - no spotting
Tangerine - Orange in color

Hypo describes spotting or markings on the back, tangerine describes the coloring.

They are two different traits.

 

[Tony C]

I have seen so many definitions of hypo, including: reduced spotting, spots restricted to the black banded area, and 20, 15, 12, 10 or less spots on the back. Not to mention the debate over whether hypo is a dominant or polygenic trait. Until a widely accepted definition is adopted it is nothing more than a judgment call to say whether a gecko is hypo or not, there can be no right or wrong answer. What makes the whole debate even goofier is that "hypo" as used to describe a leopard gecko does not remotely resemble the definition of hypo for any other reptile.

 

[OhioGecko]

I have seen so many definitions of hypo, including: reduced spotting, spots restricted to the black banded area, and 20, 15, 12, 10 or less spots on the back. Not to mention the debate over whether hypo is a dominant or polygenic trait. Until a widely accepted definition is adopted it is nothing more than a judgment call to say whether a gecko is hypo or not, there can be no right or wrong answer. What makes the whole debate even goofier is that "hypo" as used to describe a leopard gecko does not remotely resemble the definition of hypo for any other reptile.

:main_thumbsup: I agree with you Tony 100%. The explention I gave above is my judgement

 

[robin]

Good thread Robin I believe the post below describes what you're asking.



They are two different traits.

so then those three tangerines in my post would be by your definition super hypo tangerines

 

[robin]

What makes the whole debate even goofier is that "hypo" as used to describe a leopard gecko does not remotely resemble the definition of hypo for any other reptile.

what does hypo mean or stand for? hypomelanism. what is that? reduction of black pigmentation compared to a wild type. so why does is the term hypo in leopard geckos not as credible as other reptile morphs?