Marble Eye Leopard Geckos! (Not Eclipse)

[KelliH]

OK, please no one get upset or anything, because I am just asking but... is the only thing different about them the way the eyes look?

 

[geckogirl3]

i have a gecko that look like the non albino marble eye

 

[ElapidSVT]

OK, please no one get upset or anything, because I am just asking but... is the only thing different about them the way the eyes look?

the article i read on them said something about some pattern anomalies that were showing up. darkening and major pattern changes during maturing in the afghanicus outcrosses iirc. it did sound interesting at the least.

 

[geckogirl3]

http://www.luxuriousleopards.com/leopard-gecko-projects

they say they have a marble project if you scroll down to trempers

 

[JESSIE]

I feel the opposite way. I love all of the Slight variation in leopard geckos.
It makes for some fun when you cross them. Often crosses with two Similar traits give you totally different results.You never know what you are going to get and that is very exciting to me.

like wise!!!!

 

[rickmoss95]

OK, please no one get upset or anything, because I am just asking but... is the only thing different about them the way the eyes look?

if you look at the post i just made on page 2, those are just pure marble eyes with no combo genetics at all...this is what craig stewart told ME personally. they have an almost super hypo look to them. they are also supposed to have a "hidden gene" or some type of "enhancing" gene that supposedly reacts to other genes. nobody is really saying much about what these "hidden or enhancing" genes really do, or how they act...but i can assure you, i will be trying to find out when i get mine! i cant really blame people for keeping quiet about the majority of how these genes act untill they figure them out completely....for one, they wanna KNOW before they say something, and for two, maybe they wanna keep thier secret projects...secret. who knows, only time will tell...but i can assure you that i am getting some of these and i will be doing some combo breeding with them!

 

[eyelids]

They have a super hypo look because that's what they are... As far as I can recall they popped up in Alberto's [A&M] Sunglow line... I'm sure what Craig means is that the ones he has are of that same line without being crossed... He's not saying that is what a ''regular'' one looks like...

 

[lillith]

these are pure marble eyes, not combos(according to craig)...these pics are from the urban gecko and are used with permission to me from craig.

That's not an albino? Why do I think it's an albino?

They are very pretty eyes.

 

[snared99]

We do carry the Marbled Eye and have been very successful reproducing this morph this season. Our update this week is the first time we have openned sales to the pubic. Currently it is in the tremper line but we have already started to segregate the gene. The eyes on these animals are truely awesome and will make some great looking combo morphs. We can assure everyone it is not related to the eclipse gene, and is a totally new simple recessive eye trait. There are some other cool pattern/color traits that seem to be occuring, but until they are more reproducable we are not going to discuss those.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

We can assure everyone it is not related to the eclipse gene, and is a totally new simple recessive eye trait.

AWESOME
:main_thumbsup:

 

[Northstar Herp]

I'd be interested to hear the outcome from breeding marble eyed animals to eclipse. I mean, does one override the other? I'm just wondering how you would know it's got nothing to do with eclipse.

 

[KelliH]

if you look at the post i just made on page 2, those are just pure marble eyes with no combo genetics at all...this is what craig stewart told ME personally. they have an almost super hypo look to them. they are also supposed to have a "hidden gene" or some type of "enhancing" gene that supposedly reacts to other genes. nobody is really saying much about what these "hidden or enhancing" genes really do, or how they act...but i can assure you, i will be trying to find out when i get mine! i cant really blame people for keeping quiet about the majority of how these genes act untill they figure them out completely....for one, they wanna KNOW before they say something, and for two, maybe they wanna keep thier secret projects...secret. who knows, only time will tell...but i can assure you that i am getting some of these and i will be doing some combo breeding with them!

I can understand, however there have been instances were buyers bought into morphs with the suggestion that said morph was a "gene enhancer" or would produce potentially "brand new morphs" etc. and then for some reason it never happens.

The Marble Eyes that Craig has are without a doubt Marble Eyes, but as far as them having a "super hypo look to them", well that is simply because they are super hypo tangerine Trempers. I know when Craig obtained his Marble Eyes and he has not had enough time at all to figure out if they contain any "hidden genes" or not. Personally I hope they do but if not then, well, they are leopard geckos with wicked cool eyes, nothin wrong with that!

 

[Baoh]

a "hidden gene" or some type of "enhancing" gene

I'd laugh if this claim (I am being exceedingly generous with the noun) wasn't something that is going to end up being perpetuated.

 

[justindh1]

The Marbled Eyed geckos are pretty damn cool but I agree with Kelli. If it enhances pattern then that's awesome but if not then it's just a gecko with a cool eye. Also, I agree a pure marble eyed would be a gecko without any other genetics present. The stock I have seen the marbled eye in has been nothing but trempers.

I don't understand why this morph isn't understood completely yet but is already up for sale in the market.

 

[Gazz]

I'd be interested to hear the outcome from breeding marble eyed animals to eclipse. I mean, does one override the other? I'm just wondering how you would know it's got nothing to do with eclipse.

The first was easy: Cross the Marble Eye to Eclipse and see what happens. I did this in two ways. I bred the original females to a Mack raptor. I also bred the male Marble Eye to some eclipse females. More than forty babies hatched and there were no eye pigmented geckos at all. At that point I knew there was no Eclipse gene at work in producing marble eyed geckos.

http://www.geckotime.com/new-leopard-gecko-mutation-the-marble-eye/

All i can see is one big headache, The whole crossing thing like Talbino X Ralbino, Ralbino X Balbino'etc. All it takes is for a couple to be cross before we don't know whats a Eclipse eye or what a Marble eye, If some one breeds a Talbino eclipse eye to a Ralbino marble eye, That a bunch of Normal HET Talbino,Ralbino,Eclipse eye,Marble eye loose in the market, In fact it all ready started(Read above),There's more than 40 hatchling out there with both Eclipse eye and Marble eye traits.

The only leo that looks really differant is the Marble eye cross pure species Montanus, But that only one baby, If all Marble eye leo's was all like that it would be smart. That would be good as it's a easy way to ID them.
http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/36372/2810273980054421107S600x600Q85.jpg

 

[Wild West Reptile]

http://www.geckotime.com/new-leopard-gecko-mutation-the-marble-eye/

All i can see is one big headache, The whole crossing thing like Talbino X Ralbino, Ralbino X Balbino'etc. All it takes is for a couple to be cross before we don't know whats a Eclipse eye or what a Marble eye, If some one breeds a Talbino eclipse eye to a Ralbino marble eye, That a bunch of Normal HET Talbino,Ralbino,Eclipse eye,Marble eye loose in the market, In fact it all ready started(Read above),There's more than 40 hatchling out there with both Eclipse eye and Marble eye traits.


http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/36372/2810273980054421107S600x600Q85.jpg

Can't this be said about any Talbino, Ralbino, Balbino's? People unknowingly cross them all the time and sometimes even on purpose not knowing any better. So why would the Marble eye be a "big headache"? The whole albino crossing thing was already a big headache before the Marble eye. Make sure you can trace the genetics back before purchasing any morph would be my suggestion. The less we buy of these "muddy" strains the better. The Marble eye is going to look awesome when properly crossed into new morphs.

 

[Gazz]

Can't this be said about any Talbino, Ralbino, Balbino's? People unknowingly cross them all the time and sometimes even on purpose not knowing any better. So why would the Marble eye be a "big headache"? The whole albino crossing thing was already a big headache before the Marble eye. Make sure you can trace the genetics back before purchasing any morph would be my suggestion. The less we buy of these "muddy" strains the better. The Marble eye is going to look awesome when properly crossed into new morphs.

That's what i'm saying, We've already got the headache of people crossing albino strains, We've already got the headache of Eclipse eye and Tinted eye(Snows and Blizards) apart now adding Marble eye, It's all very well saying make sure you can trace the genetics, But the breeder of Marble eye has already made over 40 HET Eclipse eye,Marble eye. Were are them leo's now ?. Point is it shouldn't be, Going to look awesome, If it's some thing really that differant, It should already look awesome, Sorry but based on what i've seen so far not worth the price tag, We have Eclipes eye leo's and if it's just about the eyes then what's the point.

If the leo in the link below was a Marble eye leo, And that how they look all the time in there normal state, Then yes they would be great, BUT all the other ofspring was said to look like normal every day leo's.
http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/36372/2810273980054421107S600x600Q85.jpg

 

[Wild West Reptile]

Point is it shouldn't be, Going to look awesome, If it's some thing really that differant, It should already look awesome, Sorry but based on what i've seen so far not worth the price tag, We have Eclipes eye leo's and if it's just about the eyes then what's the point.

To each his own. It does already look awesome....the eye itself. As for the gecko showing up with random colors or whatever, only time will tell.

Was the RAPTOR eye worth the money when it came out?....the eclipse eye?....How about the enigma morphs? Why were/are they so expensive when your selling an animal that has genetic problems and walks in circles and some of them can't even eat because of it? Why are they expensive??

My point is, that if you don't like it, don't buy it. Period. There will be...and is...a lineup of people who do want it, and are willing to pay in the thousands because it is a new simple recessive eye that is limited as hell!

This isn't the first new eye to pop up and it certainly won't be the last, but it is the newest and coolest right now. I'm sure if anyone wants one for under $800-1000, they should be able to pick one up in a couple of years. But if they simply can't wait, they will pay up big.

 

[Gazz]

Was the RAPTOR eye worth the money when it came out?....the eclipse eye?....

Yes because Eclipse was the only eye trait, But now trying to sell another eye trait that looks just like Eclipse and works pretty much the same, But stupid money is just wacko. It's like you owning a pedigree lamborghini and me trying to sell you a Kit car lamborghini look a like at 5 times the price that you payed for you pedigree lamborghini. Sorry but if it's only all in the eyes then it just pointless IMO.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

But now trying to sell another eye trait that looks just like Eclipse and works pretty much the same, But stupid money is just wacko. It's like you owning a pedigree lamborghini and me trying to sell you a Kit car lamborghini look a like at 5 times the price that you payed for you pedigree lamborghini. Sorry but if it's only all in the eyes then it just pointless IMO.

Doesn't look like it to me! I don't see any marbling in an eclipse eye. If you have a marble eyed eclipse please post so I can see it. But if its just solid....then to me, that's not worth the money either. There's tons of solid, red and black eyed geckos out there. Common.