hummm... *dent* what to do

[paulnj]

Well , it's a sealed container, so whether Sim , gladware or delicup... humidity should be at the same reachable level.

I haven't used mine for female yet....

 

[Neill]

I just dumped a TON of water in min trying to get humidity to go up the sides.

 

[snared99]

I have actually had the same issues with my sims too. I havent tried it for leos yet but rather aft eggs, and have had no luck. I have used it for 5 clutches and all 5 have died, and i know they were fertile because upon pipping the egg there was tiny embryos in the egg :{ I have it to the fill line 50/50 with vermiculite. I do notice though there is alot of 'play' with aft eggs in the slots, they do not sit in there very snug at all and have a tendency to roll around. just my findings thus far with aft eggs.

 

[herpencounter]

I have actually had the same issues with my sims too. I havent tried it for leos yet but rather aft eggs, and have had no luck. I have used it for 5 clutches and all 5 have died, and i know they were fertile because upon pipping the egg there was tiny embryos in the egg :{ I have it to the fill line 50/50 with vermiculite. I do notice though there is alot of 'play' with aft eggs in the slots, they do not sit in there very snug at all and have a tendency to roll around. just my findings thus far with aft eggs.

That sucks =|...

Yeah, my eggs kind of move a bit too... having to open it every now and then to place more eggs and everything moves =s

I think I solved the problem with the moisture up the sides thing. I had my sim in the corner of a hova. Two of the sides had moisture on it. Those where also the sides that had the heating element above them. So I moved the sim into the middle of the hova, we will see if it changes anything, as I adjust the temp again. If this is the case than I am going to need 1 hova for every sim... and that's not happening LOL.

I think the sims work best at 86+ anything below that your going to have a hard time getting the moisture on the sides and humidity to go up.


J.

EDIT: The eggs that where/are doing bad, are the ones that where not close to the two edges with the moisture. I have two eggs that are on the moist side, and they are doing MUCH better than the ones on the dryer side (they are also much younger).

 

[acpart]

I have actually had the same issues with my sims too. I havent tried it for leos yet but rather aft eggs, and have had no luck. I have used it for 5 clutches and all 5 have died, and i know they were fertile because upon pipping the egg there was tiny embryos in the egg :{ I have it to the fill line 50/50 with vermiculite. I do notice though there is alot of 'play' with aft eggs in the slots, they do not sit in there very snug at all and have a tendency to roll around. just my findings thus far with aft eggs.

I have been able to adjust the rails so the AFT eggs are pretty well anchored. I have them with the rails running along the long side of the eggs, not the short side.

Aliza

 

[dprince]

You know, I've had great luck incubating eggs in deli-cups, with just one hole. Doing what I think is the exact same thing, with the exact same parents, using the exact same measurements, in the exact same cups, with the exact same medium and water ratios, with the exact same incubator and exact same temps, I've had complete and utter failures. :main_huh: Sometimes, bad things just happen. :main_no:

 

[Imperial Geckos]

Guess Gregg and I will have to do an instructional video to show how to properly set up a SIM for best results.

John posting a video will be great! I will be looking forward to it, i have debating buying a SIM Container for some time, and the video might just convince me..

-Alex

 

[acpart]

I think a video is a great idea. I have been greatly helped in setting up my SIM after calling Gregg for advice. Reading the info on the Sqauamata website didn't provide enough information.

Aliza

 

[Brhaco]

We're incubating fatties and leos in SIMS, no problems so far!

 

[paulnj]

Had issues in the beginning with leos, but Gregg and John helped me out... All leo eggs are doing fine now. hatched 6 MACK MONTANUS HET RAPTOR in it last season

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Despite what problems I have heard from this forum or other people using the SIM, I have had great success with it and have actually recently just ordered 2 more. The problem that everyone is having is that they are doing everything the EXACT same way. Just looking at the product itself you have to realize it is not touching any substrate...thus meaning that their will naturally be a reduction in moisture intake from the eggs. To me it seemed like common sense that I would have to increase the water ratios in order to maintain a substantial amount of humidity. Yes a video on proper set up would be beneficial to see how the creator of the product sets up his containers...however, I don't think their is anything wrong with the product at all but is simply user error. I have SIMS in both NS and MR148 incubators at 82.2 and 89.3 and both have adequate humidity and have resulted with no problems. Thus meaning the product works for all temps when used correctly.

I understand the frustration of lost clutches...believe me I do...but blaming the products ability to function, I think is extreme.

For ANYONE looking to invest into a SIM yes they work awesome...you just need to understand how to use it before placing in eggs. Give it a few days of test runs without eggs to see what mixtures you will need to get the temps and humidity you want.

 

[snared99]

I dont think anyone was blaming t he product for causing eggs to go bad, but rather trying to find a solution to fix the problem. Im sure it works great, but eggs can go bad using any method of incubation.

 

[dprince]

I dont think anyone was blaming the product for causing eggs to go bad, but rather trying to find a solution to fix the problem. Im sure it works great, but eggs can go bad using any method of incubation.

Exactly. Some eggs - even ones that are fertile - are just not meant to hatch. We're dealing with living creatures, here. Life isn't controllable. Though we may have some ways to attempt to control the outcomes of our breeding projects, we don't truly control *anything.* Not really. We can only do the best we can with what we have, learn from our successes and well as failures, and move on.

 

[Gregg M]

Pat,
I am sorry for the miscommunication and the misunderstanding... Things sometimes do not come out correct in type... You called me once about an egg that dented about two weeks ago You also mention the other egg was doing well... I did ask you to call me back if there was a problem or not to keep me updated... I never heard back from you so I assumed all was well... Then I saw your post and was very suprized by it... Miscommunication and misunderstanding can make situations crappy... I am glad cooler heads prevailed before it got any worse... LOL...

Sorry again Pat...

 

[snared99]

Pat,
I am sorry for the miscommunication and the misunderstanding... Things sometimes do not come out correct in type... You called me once about an egg that dented about two weeks ago You also mention the other egg was doing well... I did ask you to call me back if there was a problem or not to keep me updated... I never heard back from you so I assumed all was well... Then I saw your post and was very suprized by it... Miscommunication and misunderstanding can make situations crappy... I am glad cooler heads prevailed before it got any worse... LOL...

Sorry again Pat...

No worries at all, it is sometime difficult with everyones schedule and things get mixed up. No problems at all. I have already resetup the SIMS and am very excited for this new trial. I think it is a great product and will aid many in years to come!!

 

[geckosftw]

I use plastic egg crate, used for lighting. I put vermiculite on the bottom, then saturated it, then set the egg crate cut to size on top of it. This is my second year doing this and imo is the exact same as a SIM (same concept, SIM was just put together in mass production and looks nicer), but cost me $2 to make. This is how I learned to incubate eggs, and I know a few others who use the same method that I do. It keeps the eggs off the medium, and allows maximum gas exchange. I'll stick to my $2 DIY and pass on the SIM for another season. Just my 2 cents. I'm not ragging on the SIM, I just wouldn't use one personally since my method is working out perfectly for me.

For the dented egg, a tip is to take a tiny bit of moss, moisten it, and lay it on top of the egg for 24 hours. Good luck.

 

[paulnj]

Just hatched 2 at 87.7 degrees in 35 days

 

[acpart]

Just hatched 2 at 87.7 degrees in 35 days

Two what?

Aliza

 

[paulnj]

A eclipse enigma and a enigma het eclipse from afghan lines.

 

[softballstud_1099]

my two eggs were dented after the first day in the incubator. I am not using a SIM but I added some water to my vermiculite and now they have no more dents. Thank goodness. I thought that they were duds at first cause when I candled them I saw no veins and they were yellow. After further inspection I can see viens in both of them. Good luck with your dented eggs.

Brent